Trade for Crowder?

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Trade for Crowder?

Postby cvbuc » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:17 am

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Strong contender / front runner for the chip. I need a WR2/3 type to solidify my depth and lineup with the uncertainty around Juju and Edelman.

An 0-5 team in a rebuild has a few WRs I like: McLaurin, Parker, Crowder and it obviously seems like Crowder is the guy they are willing to part with. They've already turned down offers of a 2nd and 3rd for Crowder.

First: is everyone buying into Crowder as a solid WR3 floor with upside? Any concern that he fades when the other receivers return or Gase gets fired?

Is he worth a 2022 1st?
Is he worth Michael Pittman?

Or should I stand pat and wait and see what I have in Pittman when he returns?

Appreciate the advice.
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WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby Paul717 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:30 am

I think he'll have a great floor this year in PPR but I'm not sure I'd pay those prices you've mentioned. I could also see Juju and Edelman rebounding to the point where you wouldn't need another WR. Also Preston Williams is starting to look interesting as he continues to recover from the ACL tear.

Is this other team actively shopping his WRs? Are trades prevalent in this league or is there time to stew on this more?
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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby pmart33 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:31 am

Crowder is one of those players who will provide you with a high scoring floor in PPR formats. He lacks monster upside, but if you have that on other parts of your roster and just need 12-17 points Crowder is your guy. He feels like one of those players that no one really values however, so just know that you probably won't recoup the value you give up to get him in a future deal.

I'd draw the line at a 2nd and a 3rd. a 22 1st or Pittman is too rich for my blood. There are just so many WRs out there that I'd rather pay up for if I'm dealing a 1st.
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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:32 am

I would move a 2nd for Crowder but not a 1st or Pittman.

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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby cvbuc » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:09 am

Paul717 wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:30 am I think he'll have a great floor this year in PPR but I'm not sure I'd pay those prices you've mentioned. I could also see Juju and Edelman rebounding to the point where you wouldn't need another WR. Also Preston Williams is starting to look interesting as he continues to recover from the ACL tear.

Is this other team actively shopping his WRs? Are trades prevalent in this league or is there time to stew on this more?
Great points above - I def hold out hope that my other WRs rebound - but also know how it goes sometimes when you bank on hope. There is definitely time to stew. I approached the other team since I know they are 0-5 and out of it.

I'll stew on this another week and see what develops - thanks.
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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby cvbuc » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:12 am

pmart33 wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:31 am Crowder is one of those players who will provide you with a high scoring floor in PPR formats. He lacks monster upside, but if you have that on other parts of your roster and just need 12-17 points Crowder is your guy. He feels like one of those players that no one really values however, so just know that you probably won't recoup the value you give up to get him in a future deal.

I'd draw the line at a 2nd and a 3rd. a 22 1st or Pittman is too rich for my blood. There are just so many WRs out there that I'd rather pay up for if I'm dealing a 1st.
Terrific points. I absolutely agree that Crowder will likely never recoup value in the future no matter what he does. I'll hold firm on my original offer as you suggest. thx
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WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby cvbuc » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:13 am

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:32 am I would move a 2nd for Crowder but not a 1st or Pittman.
makes total sense - thx
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RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby moishetreats » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:41 am

I wouldn't hesitate to trade Pittman -- or even Pittman and a 3rd -- for Crowder.

Remember: current season points are highly valuable, and, in PPR leagues, Jamison Crowder is the NUMBER 2 WR in points per game.
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Re: Trade for Crowder?

Postby jjleurquin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:09 pm

I don't think that guy will ever trade Crowder if he wont take a 2+3. I'd look elsewhere if trying to acquire a WR as this particular person seems to overvalue his own players.


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