Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
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Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
In a ppr dyno would you move Evans for Gibson and a 1st? Im RB needy and in full on rebuild, also have 5 !st rounders next year, this would give me 6. So figure Ill be able to do plenty of wheeling and dealing, and to some degree control the flow of the draft. I have watched very little of Gibson so far but seems like he will at least get the chance to be the guy. Kyler/1st also an option but it is one QB and I have Russ, but Kyler looks to be like a top 3 dyno QB moving forward along with LJ and Mahomes.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
Evans easily even in a rebuild. This is really light.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
I have had a few say that as well. The first will be top 4. I always hear of deals where Evans is fetching multiple 1st rounders but across 30 or so leagues Ive yet to ever see it. He is talented but relies on heavy volume. Maybe Im too low on him but have never been a huge fan. Not saying I cant get a better deal but nobody is paying multiple 1sts for him. That puts him in the Godwin/MT territory and he is not valued the same in my leagues. Move the needle to add Kyler Murray? I also should have mentioned it is .5 pt per carry.
Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
It seems pretty light for Evans to me. If he's a contender it will be a late first on top of that. I'd look to a few of the contenders and see if any of them will give up a bigger package for him.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
Hes going to finish bottom 3 for sure. If he sells Gibson he will have one RB on his roster. Nobody is really buying Evans at value, they would prefer to pay a little more and get Godwin, and if I was buying I would as well. Have floated several offers out and had very little interest.
Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
Never understood why so many are low on Evans, a player with 6 straight 1,000 yard seasons and 48 TD through 6 seasons. Hes a hall of fame quality receiver.
I'd want a bit more coming back.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
Evans by atleast a first, probably more.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
You can not like a guy, but to say his production is based on high volume only? He only had 118 targets last year and turned that into 1000 yards. He is a big play monster who always gives you 7 TD's and a 1,000 yards. Literally every year and he is 27. Dude you are miles light pn this offer.Kkiddynamite wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:46 am He is talented but relies on heavy volume. Maybe Im too low on him but have never been a huge fan.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
saying it is top 3 makes it at least worth consideration. I might try to get his early 3rd added or useful piece of similar value
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
My leagues must be vastly different from yalls. NOBODY is paying multiple 1sts for Evans. Im fine with keeping him but nobody pays the prices I see on here or on the recent trades. I dealt with a similar issue with Hopkins last year and everybody said he was worth multiple 1sts but in reality a guy is only worth as much as somebody is willing to give you, and in a point per carry league early !st rounders are like gold. I admittedly am selling Evans a bit low, but in part because it would give me 5 2021 1st round picks and being able to control the flow of the draft has usually allowed me to buy players a bit lower than their normal value. That being said, would you pivot and offer a late 1st for Gibson/Kyler Murray and just hang on to Evans?
Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
Way too low and not entirely bc Evans is a perennially undervalued stud, but because Gibson is not the answer. Adding Kyler instead is better in my mind, and then you can move Russ for hopefully a kings ransom. I still dont think Kyler + early 1st is worth Evans in 1QB but if thats all you can get and you can ship Russ for solid return, I think its decent.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
I was thinking of keeping Evans and offering him one of my acquired late 1sts for Kyler and Gibson. Id almost certainly be able to move one of Kyler or Russ. All the guys that are buyers for Evans have already sold me their 2021 1st round picks lol! Have a few guys that want him bad, but they have no first round picks next year. Guy offered me Hunter Henry/Robby A/Cephus for Evans but that feels light as well. I own his 1st but could maybe get his 2nd. Not thinking that Gibson is the long term solution at RB in Washington?Dibbles wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:21 am Way too low and not entirely bc Evans is a perennially undervalued stud, but because Gibson is not the answer. Adding Kyler instead is better in my mind, and then you can move Russ for hopefully a kings ransom. I still dont think Kyler + early 1st is worth Evans in 1QB but if thats all you can get and you can ship Russ for solid return, I think its decent.
Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
I'm not a Gibson truther but could be wrong. The Henry/R Anderson/Cephus offer is laughable. Late 1st for Kyler/Gibson is great deal if you can swing it, but doubt it works. On Evans, don't settle for anything less than early 1st plus at least one premium piece added. Good luck.Kkiddynamite wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:29 amI was thinking of keeping Evans and offering him one of my acquired late 1sts for Kyler and Gibson. Id almost certainly be able to move one of Kyler or Russ. All the guys that are buyers for Evans have already sold me their 2021 1st round picks lol! Have a few guys that want him bad, but they have no first round picks next year. Guy offered me Hunter Henry/Robby A/Cephus for Evans but that feels light as well. I own his 1st but could maybe get his 2nd. Not thinking that Gibson is the long term solution at RB in Washington?Dibbles wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:21 am Way too low and not entirely bc Evans is a perennially undervalued stud, but because Gibson is not the answer. Adding Kyler instead is better in my mind, and then you can move Russ for hopefully a kings ransom. I still dont think Kyler + early 1st is worth Evans in 1QB but if thats all you can get and you can ship Russ for solid return, I think its decent.
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Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
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I'm not a Gibson truther but could be wrong. The Henry/R Anderson/Cephus offer is laughable. Late 1st for Kyler/Gibson is great deal if you can swing it, but doubt it works. On Evans, don't settle for anything less than early 1st plus at least one premium piece added. Good luck.
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I wasnt a Gibson truther either but am wondering what they plan for him. They dont have any real competition at the position and Wash is really bad. Do they add a RB next year and does he become the COP back? The 1st is going to be top 4 but agree that Gibson is not a premium piece. The other offer I didnt even respond to.
I'm not a Gibson truther but could be wrong. The Henry/R Anderson/Cephus offer is laughable. Late 1st for Kyler/Gibson is great deal if you can swing it, but doubt it works. On Evans, don't settle for anything less than early 1st plus at least one premium piece added. Good luck.
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I wasnt a Gibson truther either but am wondering what they plan for him. They dont have any real competition at the position and Wash is really bad. Do they add a RB next year and does he become the COP back? The 1st is going to be top 4 but agree that Gibson is not a premium piece. The other offer I didnt even respond to.
Re: Gibson/1st for Mike Evans
When the league value is that much lower than the player value, unless the players you are getting in return are also relatively low league value, the trade never makes sense.Kkiddynamite wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:13 am My leagues must be vastly different from yalls. NOBODY is paying multiple 1sts for Evans. Im fine with keeping him but nobody pays the prices I see on here or on the recent trades. I dealt with a similar issue with Hopkins last year and everybody said he was worth multiple 1sts but in reality a guy is only worth as much as somebody is willing to give you, and in a point per carry league early !st rounders are like gold. I admittedly am selling Evans a bit low, but in part because it would give me 5 2021 1st round picks and being able to control the flow of the draft has usually allowed me to buy players a bit lower than their normal value. That being said, would you pivot and offer a late 1st for Gibson/Kyler Murray and just hang on to Evans?
As far as your proposed trade:
I really don't think much of Gibson. He's going to benefit immensely this year from situation, but I doubt that Football Team doesn't address the RB room either in free agency or in the draft next year. In a 1 QB league I'm hesitant to pay a first for any QB. If you are 100% sure that there is no way that 2021 1st can't be late, then I'm okay with the trade.
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