Baker v Minshew
Baker v Minshew
Who would you rather have? Does it make a difference if it's 1QB or SF? Are they close or far apart?
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Re: Baker v Minshew
Tough call. I'm not sure either is great and/or the long term answer for their team. I feel Mayfield still has more name value, but that may be a stretch. Minshew reluctantly...
Re: Baker v Minshew
Minshew is getting replaced next year by either Lawerence or Fields. For that reason alone I think Baker sticks as a starter longer... and he has much better talent and team around him
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Re: Baker v Minshew
Minshew, not close.
Baker is not long for starting in this league. Horrible pocket prescence, no anticipation, terrible accuracy. You can see it in his WRs walking back to the huddle with drooped shoulders and their heads hung down because Baker missed them when they were open yet again.
He had fun upside, but I think that ship has sailed. He has the arm of Favre/Rodgers/etc but none of the rest of it.
Minshew put up just as good a rookie year as Baker did and unlike him has at least given us some hope of following through on it this year.
Baker is not long for starting in this league. Horrible pocket prescence, no anticipation, terrible accuracy. You can see it in his WRs walking back to the huddle with drooped shoulders and their heads hung down because Baker missed them when they were open yet again.
He had fun upside, but I think that ship has sailed. He has the arm of Favre/Rodgers/etc but none of the rest of it.
Minshew put up just as good a rookie year as Baker did and unlike him has at least given us some hope of following through on it this year.
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Re: Baker v Minshew
Gotta go mustache dude...Uggg
Re: Baker v Minshew
I'm not giving up on Baker just yet. He looked good tonight. Very accurate and his run game really opens things up for his passing game. He's a proven winner and i think has a much longer leash than Minshew. Easily Baker for me if it's dynasty.Vcize wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:05 pm Minshew, not close.
Baker is not long for starting in this league. Horrible pocket prescence, no anticipation, terrible accuracy. You can see it in his WRs walking back to the huddle with drooped shoulders and their heads hung down because Baker missed them when they were open yet again.
He had fun upside, but I think that ship has sailed. He has the arm of Favre/Rodgers/etc but none of the rest of it.
Minshew put up just as good a rookie year as Baker did and unlike him has at least given us some hope of following through on it this year.
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Re: Baker v Minshew
A week ago I thought that
Now?
Guy tore up a far more talented team to the tune of a 95% completion percentage and 8.6 YPA
Combine that with a rookie year that was actually better through the air than Kyler's and I don't understand what he has to do to convince people he is a franchise QB and get people to stop talking about his replacement
Re: Baker v Minshew
This would be a joke of a question if you’d asked it before week 1 and we are talking dynasty here. One week’s worth of games shouldn’t swing a player’s value up or down enough to make up the massive preseason ADP difference. It’s Baker for me.
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Re: Baker v Minshew
It's not about just 1 game though. Minshew was better than Baker last year. Sure ADP is what everyone else thinks, but I'm asking for future outlook. Their arrows seem to be going in opposite directions. How long does Minshew have to play well until he passes Baker?
FWIW I'd take Baker slightly over Minshew right now also but I couldn't give you a solid reason why.
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Re: Baker v Minshew
Baker. I like Minshew too but Baker is more talented and I think he will be fine long term.
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Re: Baker v Minshew
Let's get down to the real question here, who has the better mustache? I think Baker looks like his hair line is reseeding so he will cover it up with a nice stache / beard. Minshew is a free spirit, he wears jorts, he may come in tomorrow with his entire head shaved. Oh, wait, long term qb, give me Baker.
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Re: Baker v Minshew
Yes, let the true debate begin!dblj1199 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:29 am Let's get down to the real question here, who has the better mustache? I think Baker looks like his hair line is reseeding so he will cover it up with a nice stache / beard. Minshew is a free spirit, he wears jorts, he may come in tomorrow with his entire head shaved. Oh, wait, long term qb, give me Baker.
Re: Baker v Minshew
You didn't watch the actual game if you think he "tore up" the Colts. He threw for 173 yards, for the game. Did he make good decisions, yes. Was he accurate, yes. Was he explosive, no. Did he push the ball downfield, no. He was a game manager.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:59 am
Guy tore up a far more talented team to the tune of a 95% completion percentage and 8.6 YPA
I think Baker has more upside and more stability, would still prefer him
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Baker v Minshew
How do you feel about Minshews performance today?murphysxm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:13 amYou didn't watch the actual game if you think he "tore up" the Colts. He threw for 173 yards, for the game. Did he make good decisions, yes. Was he accurate, yes. Was he explosive, no. Did he push the ball downfield, no. He was a game manager.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:59 am
Guy tore up a far more talented team to the tune of a 95% completion percentage and 8.6 YPA
I think Baker has more upside and more stability, would still prefer him
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