Am I crazy? Poll

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

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CMC
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50%
CEH + Evans
25
50%
 
Total votes: 50

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Am I crazy? Poll

Postby PercyR1 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:13 pm

Sending cmc for CEH and Evans

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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:00 pm

I mean... Not crazy, but it's risky. Depends on the roster of course, but it's closer than the poll will allude to

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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby Jcedwards » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:21 pm

It's definitely not crazy and this time next year, those 2 may be worth more than CMC, but I can't go against the best player in fantasy (non QB) right now. I think the hype on CEH is out of control and he is still risky, since he hasn't played a down yet.
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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:49 pm

I would hold CMC, but value wise and forward thinking it's not bad.

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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:00 pm

New system, new qb, are we sure cmc continues in what has been one of the most dominant stretches of play in history?(meaning he more likelynreturms to the mean) Gurley was going for similar prices, seemed young and tied to a great system and one season later...

I'll gamble on CEH and Evans I think.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

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Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby joeday » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:05 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:00 pm New system, new qb, are we sure cmc continues in what has been one of the most dominant stretches of play in history?(meaning he more likelynreturms to the mean) Gurley was going for similar prices, seemed young and tied to a great system and one season later...

I'll gamble on CEH and Evans I think.
Gurley isn't a good comparison because of injury. If Gurley doesn't have a degenerative knee injury he is still a top 5 dynasty RB. Also does a better QB make CMC worse? I liked CEH coming out of college but boy oh boy his situation is rocketshipping him up the charts. I'd kill to get CMC at this price.
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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby jetsfan5757 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:54 pm

I went CEH and Evans. I buy the CEH hype and think CMC will either get used less or hurt (don’t wish it, but going by history of players with such high volume).

See if you can get a pick on top. CMC is possibly the number 1 dynasty asset right now. You might get it.
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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:27 pm

CMC for me. CEH would have to prove RB1 value before I’m comfortable making the trade, and even then not sure I’d do it.
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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby Adam_172 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:49 am

An unknown and a GREAT WR but who now has a questionable situation long term at QB. Give me the #1 dynasty asset whose value is at an all time high. Need something else significant added for em to consider.
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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:26 am

jcc6fd wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:27 pm CMC for me. CEH would have to prove RB1 value before I’m comfortable making the trade, and even then not sure I’d do it.
Problem is, if CEH proves he's a RB1, then I don't think owners will be rushing out to add Evans to get CMC. This deal comes with the risk

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Postby abloom » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:48 am

CMC is a known value, CEH is not. Overall i think the value is on the CMC side in terms of startup value anyways.
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Postby BradysBunch » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:54 am

I think this time next year you would want the package. I do believe CMAC loses touches. New coaching. New QB. I am also in the boat of trading at peak value for younger players I like. I would do this trade. I would then flip Evans though bc I think now is the time to sell him too. I did sell Evans this offseason for DJM and B. Edwards.
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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:58 am

joeday wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:05 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:00 pm New system, new qb, are we sure cmc continues in what has been one of the most dominant stretches of play in history?(meaning he more likelynreturms to the mean) Gurley was going for similar prices, seemed young and tied to a great system and one season later...

I'll gamble on CEH and Evans I think.
Gurley isn't a good comparison because of injury. If Gurley doesn't have a degenerative knee injury he is still a top 5 dynasty RB. Also does a better QB make CMC worse? I liked CEH coming out of college but boy oh boy his situation is rocketshipping him up the charts. I'd kill to get CMC at this price.
I meant we didn’t realize how bad his knees were and by the time we did it was too late to get out. We don’t know what kinds of wear and tear cmc has. But he is a smaller dude and is racking up the touches and collisions. I’m being kind of hypothetical but how long does he have before his body gives out? I like resetting with a rookie at some point. Maybe this isn’t enough though. Y’all make good points. I just can’t imagine you will do better. It seems like too much to ask for an MT or Hill or Adams with CEH. But maybe you could get that.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby joeday » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:11 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:58 am
joeday wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:05 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:00 pm New system, new qb, are we sure cmc continues in what has been one of the most dominant stretches of play in history?(meaning he more likelynreturms to the mean) Gurley was going for similar prices, seemed young and tied to a great system and one season later...

I'll gamble on CEH and Evans I think.
Gurley isn't a good comparison because of injury. If Gurley doesn't have a degenerative knee injury he is still a top 5 dynasty RB. Also does a better QB make CMC worse? I liked CEH coming out of college but boy oh boy his situation is rocketshipping him up the charts. I'd kill to get CMC at this price.
I meant we didn’t realize how bad his knees were and by the time we did it was too late to get out. We don’t know what kinds of wear and tear cmc has. But he is a smaller dude and is racking up the touches and collisions. I’m being kind of hypothetical but how long does he have before his body gives out? I like resetting with a rookie at some point. Maybe this isn’t enough though. Y’all make good points. I just can’t imagine you will do better. It seems like too much to ask for an MT or Hill or Adams with CEH. But maybe you could get that.
The issue that you have though is you are always playing for next year when you do that. I mean CMC just turned 24 so yes, he is older than CEH but when we start moving 24 year old RBs to get younger that feels like a dangerous game. Sure, maybe CMC takes a bad hit on his knee and starts to wear down or maybe he is LT and has a long productive career. Maybe CEH turns into the next Brian Westbrook or is the next David Wilson. If I’m trying to win ships the next few years I will take CMC, it I am rebuilding i would consider something with CEH but would want a WR like DJM (for example) with him.
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – 🏆
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – 🥈

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RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

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2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – 🏆
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – 🥈

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

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Re: Am I crazy? Poll

Postby murphysxm » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:17 am

Yeah, you are crazy
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