Taylor or CEH in non ppr

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Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby saw061600 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:27 pm

This league (team 1) refuses to draft early so here we are. Draft is Tuesday, NONPPR scoring, and after taking a bit of time away after trading for pick 1, I'm debating CEH or Taylor. I was all in on JT but now that I've got the pick, having 2nd thoughts.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:34 pm

Taylor for me.

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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby repkllrs » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:36 pm

Me too
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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby Needalife » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:36 pm

Seems like a lot of sites are calling ppr "standard" these days, but I'll assume you mean no reception points. I'd take Taylor in that format over CEH. Both will be good but slight edge to Taylor who excels more in between the tackles.
TEAM 1 - 12 TEAM PPR TE PREMIUM - 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 3 FX / 1 DL / 2 LB / 2 DB / 1 DFX
QB: Deshaun Watson, Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones
RB: Joe Mixon, Miles Sanders, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Austen Ekeler, Boston Scott, Corey Clement, Gio Bernard, Traveon Williams
WR: Julio Jones, Cooper Kupp, Amari Cooper, Courtland Suttion, Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, Denzel Mims, Bryan Edwards, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Hunter Henry, Dallas Goedert, Ian Thomas, Logan Thomas, Cole Kmet
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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby StripesOfKC » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:38 pm

Taylor for sure
Team 1

8 Team 0.5 PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Roethlisberger
RB: CEH, Jonathan Taylor
WR: AJ Brown (Out), DJ Moore, McLaurin
FLEX: Chark, Diontae
TE: Kittle
D: Steelers
K: Gould

Bench
QB: Daniel Jones, Darnold, Jordan Love
RB: Swift, Sony Michel (IR), Cohen (IR), Damien Harris, KeShawn Vaughn
WR: Justin Jefferson, Sutton (IR), Gallup, Pittman, Anthony Miller, Mims, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell (IR), Mooney, Gabe Davis
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki

2021: 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th
2022: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Slayton, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Geordert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby saw061600 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:38 pm

Needalife wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:36 pm
Seems like a lot of sites are calling ppr "standard" these days, but I'll assume you mean no reception points. I'd take Taylor in that format over CEH. Both will be good but slight edge to Taylor who excels more in between the tackles.
Changed to "NONPPR" to make it more clear, thanks.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Edgy68 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:58 pm

I had the 1.01 in a PPR and went CEH no question. In non, I think Taylor gets the edge.
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QB D. Brees, L. Jackson, J. Burrow
RB S. Barkley, D. Henry, M. Sanders, CEH, A. Matt., A. Gibson, J. Hill, J. Samuels
WR M. Thomas, C. Sutton, C. Ridley, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, JJAW, J. Hurd, J. Reynolds, M. Bryant, T. Patrick, I. Ford, Q. Watkins
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RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, J. Jacobs, N. Chubb, D. Swift, G. Bernard, J. Hill, B. Scott, D. Dallas, J. Hasty
WR D. Hopkins, K. Allen, Juju, K. Golladay, C. Godwin, J. Gordon, G. Davis
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Tobin » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:03 pm

I would go Taylor in Standard league....CEH in PPR
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12 team 4pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST (25 active roster)
QB: Wentz, D.Jones, Brady
RB: Saquon, Chubb, CEH, N.Hines, J.Richard, P.Laird, J.Samuels
WR: M.Thomas (NO), D.Adams, Sutton, Chark, Lamb, Pittman, Gage, Hurd, AGG, S.Miller
TE: Kittle, Thomas, Trautman

2021 Picks: 1,2,2,3,4,5

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Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST (25 active roster)
QB: Burrow, Lock, Minshew
RB: A.Gibson, Duke, D.Dallas, R.Jones, D.Harris, McKinnon, Bonnafon, Laird, McKissic
WR: Tyreek, DJ Moore, Lamb, B.Edwards, Gage, Watson, R.Higgins, A.Tate, S.Miller
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby PBFalcon » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:18 pm

Clearly I am in the minority here, but I wouldn't be able to pass on the Chiefs RB for the next 4-5 years.
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QB: P Mahomes, L Jackson
RB: C Edwards-Helaire, J Taylor, J Mixon, N Chubb, M Sanders, C Carson, R Penny, J McKinnon
WR: T Hill, DK Metcalf, M Evans, C Godwin, J Smith-Schuster, M Williams, M Hardman, J Jefferson, B Edwards, D Mims
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:24 pm

I'd probably take CEH regardless. If JT doesn't catch a lot of passes then he better get 300+ carries and double digit TDs. Otherwise he is Joe Mixon and will live in that low RB1 range. Nick Chubb was 50 yards away from the rushing title and ended at RB6 because he didn't get a ton of receiving work and only scored 8 TDs. It's just a lower ceiling if you don't get a lot of passing game work.
Team 1: 14 team dynasty, 25 man roster, keep 14
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D/ST, K, DL, LB, DE
QB: Ryan, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, CEH, Kelley, Darrel Williams, Gaskin, Snell
WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Moore, Jeudy, Reagor, Corey Davis, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Schultz
K: Butker
D/ST: Titans, Bears
DL: Heyward
LB: K. White
DB: B. Baker

Team 2: 12 team PPR Salary Cap
QB: Watson, Goff
RB: Barkley, CEH, Gibson, Howard, Perine, Lewis, Ozigbo
WR: Hill, Allen, Boyd, Landry, Sims, DJax, Hamler, Westbrook
TE: Schultz, Ebron, Thomas, Keene, Jarwin
K: Tucker
D/ST: Steelers, Bills
Taxi: Lock, Bryce Love, Higgins

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QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Love
RB: AP, Lewis, Perine, JJ Taylor, Vaughn, Mack
WR: Jeudy, Jeffrey, P Williams, Mooney, Cephus, Fitz, Gandy-Golden, Hightower, Swain, Bisi Johnson, Tate
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby M-Dub » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:16 pm

I would take JT regardless of format. He is the far superior talent. The only reason CEH is even in the discussion is due to landing spot, but JT didn’t exactly land in a bad situation himself.
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TE: Kelce, Olsen, Njoku, OJH
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QB: Stafford $8/1, Big Ben $11/1, Herbert, $3/5
RB: CEH $26/5, Vaughn $9/4, Edwards $1/1
WR: Godwin $50/3, Hilton $43/1, Fuller $14/1, Crowder $21/1, Sanders $20/1, G. Tate $10/1, Mims $6/5, Edwards $3/5, Hamler $2/3, Patrick $1/1
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Pac_Eddy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:50 pm

I like CEH regardless of PPR or non. But go with your gut.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:52 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:24 pm
I'd probably take CEH regardless. If JT doesn't catch a lot of passes then he better get 300+ carries and double digit TDs. Otherwise he is Joe Mixon and will live in that low RB1 range. Nick Chubb was 50 yards away from the rushing title and ended at RB6 because he didn't get a ton of receiving work and only scored 8 TDs. It's just a lower ceiling if you don't get a lot of passing game work.
This is non PPR. Passing game work isn't really all that relevant (though I do believe Taylor will get some)
Team 1

8 Team 0.5 PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Roethlisberger
RB: CEH, Jonathan Taylor
WR: AJ Brown (Out), DJ Moore, McLaurin
FLEX: Chark, Diontae
TE: Kittle
D: Steelers
K: Gould

Bench
QB: Daniel Jones, Darnold, Jordan Love
RB: Swift, Sony Michel (IR), Cohen (IR), Damien Harris, KeShawn Vaughn
WR: Justin Jefferson, Sutton (IR), Gallup, Pittman, Anthony Miller, Mims, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell (IR), Mooney, Gabe Davis
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki

2021: 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th
2022: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Slayton, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Geordert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Csl312 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:36 pm

StripesOfKC wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:52 pm
This is non PPR. Passing game work isn't really all that relevant (though I do believe Taylor will get some)
Not exactly. Unless your league doesn't give RBs points for receiving yards...

You have to consider who is going to have more yards and TDs regardless of the source of the yards. I think it's pretty even - JT being the better prospect but KC is going to move the rock. I'd say go with your gut, and feel comfortable that at this point they appear to have fairly even future production. One of them will almost certainly pass the other, pretty hard to say who wins right now though.

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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:40 pm

StripesOfKC wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:52 pm
jenkins.math wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:24 pm
I'd probably take CEH regardless. If JT doesn't catch a lot of passes then he better get 300+ carries and double digit TDs. Otherwise he is Joe Mixon and will live in that low RB1 range. Nick Chubb was 50 yards away from the rushing title and ended at RB6 because he didn't get a ton of receiving work and only scored 8 TDs. It's just a lower ceiling if you don't get a lot of passing game work.
This is non PPR. Passing game work isn't really all that relevant (though I do believe Taylor will get some)
I'm well aware it's non-PPR, which is why all the data you're responding to is non-PPR from 2019. Passing work very much matters because it tends to be a more efficient way to get yards.
Team 1: 14 team dynasty, 25 man roster, keep 14
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D/ST, K, DL, LB, DE
QB: Ryan, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, CEH, Kelley, Darrel Williams, Gaskin, Snell
WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Moore, Jeudy, Reagor, Corey Davis, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Schultz
K: Butker
D/ST: Titans, Bears
DL: Heyward
LB: K. White
DB: B. Baker

Team 2: 12 team PPR Salary Cap
QB: Watson, Goff
RB: Barkley, CEH, Gibson, Howard, Perine, Lewis, Ozigbo
WR: Hill, Allen, Boyd, Landry, Sims, DJax, Hamler, Westbrook
TE: Schultz, Ebron, Thomas, Keene, Jarwin
K: Tucker
D/ST: Steelers, Bills
Taxi: Lock, Bryce Love, Higgins

Team 3: 12 team SF
QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Love
RB: AP, Lewis, Perine, JJ Taylor, Vaughn, Mack
WR: Jeudy, Jeffrey, P Williams, Mooney, Cephus, Fitz, Gandy-Golden, Hightower, Swain, Bisi Johnson, Tate
TE: Doyle, Smith, Trautman, Keene, Warring


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