Metcalf + for Brown

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Pick a Side (12 team SF)

D.K. Metcalf + 2021 2nd (mid, not mine)
14
64%
A.J. Brown
8
36%
 
Total votes: 22

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Metcalf + for Brown

Postby DLF_TylerK » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:33 pm

I just made a trade in a 12 team SF league. I'm rebuilding, but it's a shallow format with only 22 roster spots and 2 taxi.

Give: D.K. Metcalf + 2021 2nd (mid, not mine)
Get: A.J. Brown

I thought Brown was the better value here, but I'm curious how I did.
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby DLF_TylerK » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:57 pm

Any thoughts?
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:59 pm

I have AJB higher. I could see not wanting to pay the 2nd, but I would

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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:08 pm

I would hold Metcalf +.

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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:18 pm

I've got AJB and metcalf in a league and I'd want a late first with metcalf

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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby TheGoat21 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:32 pm

I thing you won it. I like Metcalf, but think AJB is on another level. Worth the late second for sure. That’s a flier in next years draft
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby DLF_TylerK » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:08 pm

TheGoat21 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:32 pm I thing you won it. I like Metcalf, but think AJB is on another level. Worth the late second for sure. That’s a flier in next years draft
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby PR0v3 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:56 pm

Metcalf outproduced Brown last year and is tied to one of the best QBs of this generation, while Brown is tied to Tannehill. It is Brown that should be adding for Metcalf.
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby mariettajeff » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:16 am

PR0v3 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:56 pm Metcalf outproduced Brown last year and is tied to one of the best QBs of this generation, while Brown is tied to Tannehill. It is Brown that should be adding for Metcalf.


Brown 52-1051-8td 1 rushing td
Metcalf 58-900-7td

That's not outproducing.
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby MFundercover » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:00 am

Ehh, I'm a biased DK owner, but I don't think Brown really did that much to separate himself from DK. Both players have similar floors and ceilings, and I would argue Metcalfs is higher.

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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby pmart33 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:23 am

I also have AJB a little higher than DK, and I think the price you paid was fair to acquire him. In a rebuild I probably would have held DK and the pick though.
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby PR0v3 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:23 pm

mariettajeff wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:16 am
PR0v3 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:56 pm Metcalf outproduced Brown last year and is tied to one of the best QBs of this generation, while Brown is tied to Tannehill. It is Brown that should be adding for Metcalf.
Brown 52-1051-8td 1 rushing td
Metcalf 58-900-7td

That's not outproducing.
You forgot about postseason play.
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby Madcity_matt » Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:41 pm

I see them as same tier more or less, so the pick might have been a bit of an overpay but if you like AJB a lot better than so be it.

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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby Eight7Seven » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:05 pm

I don't think AJ Brown is in the same caliber of physical talent as DK Metcalf. I expected Brown to have a much better rookie season than Metcalf as I thought Metcalf would be more of a project. With Brown having the more advanced and pro ready skill set. With far superior competition, Metcalf almost out produced Brown (while dealing with injuries). When you factor in the quarterback difference, I'm not seeing what everyone else is.

There's no way in hell I'd add to DK to get Brown. I'd probably prefer Brown straight up on a strong contender, but that would still be close. On all middle of the road or rebuilding teams I take Metcalf in a heartbeat.
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Re: Metcalf + for Brown

Postby RB6 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:33 pm

They're very close so I'll take the free pick.
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