Cook or JT?

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Cook or JT?

Postby abloom » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:25 am

So for team 2 in sig I have an offer sitting in my inbox:

Send JT
Get Cook

I've reached out to the mattison owner to see what it would take to get mattison but haven't heard anything yet.

The reason I'm hesitant to make this trade is because of cooks prior ACL injury and uncertainty of team next year. I realize that according to current ADP/value this is Cook side.

Is there a reason I shouldn't make this deal? Should I only make this deal if I can also get mattison for a reasonable price?
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:49 am

Value wise it’s a win. Looking into the future I think there’s more than a 50% chance that JT overtakes cook in just a year or 2. Me I’d probably hold but most people would probably say take it. You could always accept and flip cook to
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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:50 am

On any competitive roster this is a snap accept for me

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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby dblj1199 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:59 am

It all comes down to the Cook owner if he is competing or not. If he is why would he trade for a rb who isn't even the starter now? I could see if Cook were older he may be more open to making the move, but Cook isn't that old so if he's competing I'm guessing he would want something added on top of JT to make the move.
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RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby abloom » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:03 am

dblj1199 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:59 am It all comes down to the Cook owner if he is competing or not. If he is why would he trade for a rb who isn't even the starter now? I could see if Cook were older he may be more open to making the move, but Cook isn't that old so if he's competing I'm guessing he would want something added on top of JT to make the move.
Cook owner is rebuilding kind of. But like I said, this offer is in my inbox as in cook owner already sent it. I'm hesitant because of cooks prior ACL injury and his future team uncertainty. I'm not worried about him pulling the offer because I'm fine moving forward with JT. Just trying to gather other opinions.

If I can get mattison cheaply I'll probably pull the trigger on the cook trade
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby M-Dub » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:05 am

I would hold JT.
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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby jonesmaster » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:17 am

you have to hate this Yannick trade for Cook's future with the Vikings. Then you factor in injuries. Cook is too risky for me. Im holding JT here every time.
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RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
TE: Andrews , Njoku, LaPorta, Washington, Mayer
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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:18 am

Cook is the safer win now piece in theory. I moved him this offseason because he just cant stay healthy and disappeared a bit down the stretch. Taylor is an unknown but value wise they are somewhat close already. I still think Cook is the better win now piece, but like Taylor long term.

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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby Indyfan1985 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:35 am

dblj1199 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:59 am It all comes down to the Cook owner if he is competing or not. If he is why would he trade for a rb who isn't even the starter now? I could see if Cook were older he may be more open to making the move, but Cook isn't that old so if he's competing I'm guessing he would want something added on top of JT to make the move.
I’m a perennial contender each year and I dealt Cook, my 2021 1st, and 2022 2nd for JT, a likely top 5 pick in 2021, and a 2022 1st. Just to show what you could possibly aim for.
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WR - Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill
RB - Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor
TE - George Kittle
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QB - Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford
WR - Stefon Diggs, Jamar Chase
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - TJ Hockenson, Dallas Goedert
Flex - AJ Brown, DJ Moore , De'Andre Swift

Notable Bench Players - Nyheim Hines, Keenan Allen, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Calvin Ridley, Michael Pittman Jr, Darnell Mooney, Kadarius Toney, Baker Mayfield, Trey Lance, Davis Mills, Noah Fant, Evan Engram

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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:24 pm

Indyfan1985 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:35 am
dblj1199 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:59 am It all comes down to the Cook owner if he is competing or not. If he is why would he trade for a rb who isn't even the starter now? I could see if Cook were older he may be more open to making the move, but Cook isn't that old so if he's competing I'm guessing he would want something added on top of JT to make the move.
I’m a perennial contender each year and I dealt Cook, my 2021 1st, and 2022 2nd for JT, a likely top 5 pick in 2021, and a 2022 1st. Just to show what you could possibly aim for.
I misread this the first time as JT will be a top 5 pick in 2021, and was surprised that as a contender you gave cook+ for JT. Given that Ive since reread it and am no longer an idiot. If your a JT beleiver this is good value.

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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby joeday » Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:19 pm

I prefer Dalvin unless I am in complete tear down.
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Re: Cook or JT?

Postby mild » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:40 am

I'd hold JT personally.

He's just too tantalising a prospect, in a perfect situation for the next 3 years.


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