CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
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Most of you have already seen the story but for those who haven't, here is the short version. I was offered 1.04 and 1.07 for 1.02 (I owned 1.01 as well). I rejected it thinking it would be something like Swift and Akers. Dobbins dropped to four and Jeudy to seven. So now I offered JT (1.02) for Dobbins(1.04) and Jeudy (1.07). This was rejected but I was told they would for CEH. In a previous post a lot of people commented that the would not move CEH for the package but would for JT.
How big of a difference is it from CEH to JT in PPR?
So do I move CEH for Dobbins and Jeudy?
I think long term I win the trade but I am nervous about my competing window and CEH will help a ton being the only competent RB in KC where as Dobbins and Jeudy will help in the future.
Most of you have already seen the story but for those who haven't, here is the short version. I was offered 1.04 and 1.07 for 1.02 (I owned 1.01 as well). I rejected it thinking it would be something like Swift and Akers. Dobbins dropped to four and Jeudy to seven. So now I offered JT (1.02) for Dobbins(1.04) and Jeudy (1.07). This was rejected but I was told they would for CEH. In a previous post a lot of people commented that the would not move CEH for the package but would for JT.
How big of a difference is it from CEH to JT in PPR?
So do I move CEH for Dobbins and Jeudy?
I think long term I win the trade but I am nervous about my competing window and CEH will help a ton being the only competent RB in KC where as Dobbins and Jeudy will help in the future.
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Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
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1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
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1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
I would trade CEH for Dobbins and Jeudy as to me, they are the 1.03 and 1.05 in this draft. That's good value for the 1.01 in a non-Zeke/Barkley year
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Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
I still rather Edwards on that Offense and no Competition
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Dobbins and Jeudy. I thought Dobbins was in the same tier as the top 2 before going to Baltimore and the only reason is that Ingram is so there. Once he’s home then he’ll be back with them
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RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
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TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Give me Dobbins and Jeudy pretty easily here, gotta take the value and CEH's value is borderline insane at the moment.
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Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Completely agree. I like JT more longterm.
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Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
I'd take Dobbins/Jeudy here, and I'm not as high on Dobbins as others. Although I might be higher on Jeudy than others so that probably evens it out.
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Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Still Dobbins and Jeudy for me.
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
This is exactly my train of thought. Still super solid value for CEH
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WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Garbage
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RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Piling on. You don't know for sure what any of these players are going to do. Give me one of the top 3RBs + a top 2WR from this draft over just a top 2RB. More dart throws of a similar caliber is better imo.
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
I will take the RB1 for KC over the RB2 for Baltimore and the slot WR of the Broncos. Yeah Dobbins should be the 1 next year and sure Jeudy may supplant Sutton but I know CEH is gonna get RB1 load for a couple years and he isn't competing with Mahomes for carries.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22
Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22
Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
It is insane that anybody would value CEH over Dobbins and Jeudy. Both are supreior talents, both landed in plus spots. The CEH insanity has gone too far
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Dobbins and Jeudy, easily. Dobbins is a better runner through the tackles than CEH in his own right, let alone getting one of the next great WR's on top.
Dobbins is already flashing in camp, btw - and he is showing great hands in the passing game. My prediction? He runs as the 3rd down back this year.
Dobbins is already flashing in camp, btw - and he is showing great hands in the passing game. My prediction? He runs as the 3rd down back this year.
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Oversimplified and buying into the hypeYarnith wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:18 pm I will take the RB1 for KC over the RB2 for Baltimore and the slot WR of the Broncos. Yeah Dobbins should be the 1 next year and sure Jeudy may supplant Sutton but I know CEH is gonna get RB1 load for a couple years and he isn't competing with Mahomes for carries.
Re: CEH vs Dobbins and Jeudy
Except it is simple and correct. No hype pure factual sorry it doesn't fit your narrative.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:14 pmOversimplified and buying into the hypeYarnith wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:18 pm I will take the RB1 for KC over the RB2 for Baltimore and the slot WR of the Broncos. Yeah Dobbins should be the 1 next year and sure Jeudy may supplant Sutton but I know CEH is gonna get RB1 load for a couple years and he isn't competing with Mahomes for carries.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22
Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22
Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu
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