Howdy, folks!
Since winning the championship last year I have made a bunch of roster moves (too many to list). All the roster changes boil down to the below:
IN
Baker Mayfield
Tua Tagovailoa
Ke'Shawn Vaughn
Joshua Kelley
Kenny Golladay
Denzel Mims
Laviska Shenault
N'Keal Harry
T.J. Hockenson
Hayden Hurst
OUT
Russell Wilson
Tarik Cohen
Ronald Jones
Amari Cooper
Keenan Allen
Mike Williams (LAC)
Darren Waller
Chris Herndon
As my title defense starts, did I get better?
Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
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Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
Last edited by Pats/VikesFan on Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
10 team PPR league, 24 man rosters, 5 man taxi, 5 man IR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
If I’m being honest, no. I don’t think you messed up or anything, make your team your own and all. Just for me, moving from Russ to Baker and Amari to Kelley are two pretty big losses in value. You made up on some of the other moves for sure. But I think you lost a couple small ones too, I don’t see enough gained to mitigate the losses in value. Definitely got more younger/upside players though, so if that was more the goal I’d say mission accomplished there.
Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
NO. Overall you got worse at every position. Maybe the TE was a win but i like Waller and do not like Hurst so i view it as a draw at best. The only good thing that can be said about all your moves is you got younger.
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Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
I traded Russell Wilson and Mike Williams (who was a cut candidate) for Baker Mayfield and a second rounder that I used to draft Tua Tagovailoa. Thought process here was to get Baker at a discount and have a chance at Burrow or Tagovailoa in the draft.
I traded Amari Cooper for Kenny Golladay and a 3rd, which I ended up using on Joshua Kelley. I had grown frustrated with Amari's inconsistency and saw a hit to his target share coming. Most dynasty sites have Cooper and Golladay separated by 2 or 3 slots, at most, in the rankings. Some even have Golladay ahead of Cooper for this season.
I traded Amari Cooper for Kenny Golladay and a 3rd, which I ended up using on Joshua Kelley. I had grown frustrated with Amari's inconsistency and saw a hit to his target share coming. Most dynasty sites have Cooper and Golladay separated by 2 or 3 slots, at most, in the rankings. Some even have Golladay ahead of Cooper for this season.
10 team PPR league, 24 man rosters, 5 man taxi, 5 man IR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
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Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
I think it's too early to tell.
All we know is you got younger
But a lot of unknowns in: Tua, Harry, Laviska, Mims, Hock, Vaughn/Kelley - some of them are good bets for sure, but still unknowns
All we know is you got younger
But a lot of unknowns in: Tua, Harry, Laviska, Mims, Hock, Vaughn/Kelley - some of them are good bets for sure, but still unknowns
Last edited by Prison_Mike on Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
Well let's go position by position.Pats/VikesFan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:44 am Howdy, folks!
Since winning the championship last year I have made a bunch of roster moves (too many to list). All the roster changes boil down to the below changes:
IN
Baker Mayfield
Tua Tagovailoa
Ke'Shawn Vaughn
Joshua Kelley
Kenny Golladay
Denzel Mims
Laviska Shenault
N'Keal Harry
T.J. Hockenson
Hayden Hurst
OUT
Russell Wilson
Tarik Cohen
Ronald Jones
Amari Cooper
Keenan Allen
Mike Williams (LAC)
Darren Waller
Chris Herndon
As my title defense starts, did I get better?
QB: you got worse
RB: you got worse
WR: you got worse(?). I mean you traded producers for unknowns basically. So if the wrs perform well it's good but if not you lost a lot of value
TE: you got better
Overall you got worse especially when considering 2020. Maybe broke even looking at 2021 and beyond.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
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Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
Time will tell for me here but on paper, I dont think so. Lots can change quickly however.
Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
Your qb's took a huge hit here. Your rb's are still insane with Mixon as your rb3. Overall depth your basically betting on a lot of young players paying off. You will have to re-visit this off season in 2 years to see how it worked out for you.
2015, 2017, 2022 Champ.
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
Man, I guess I was way off in my thought process.
The rankings on the Dynasty League Football website tell me that I:
- Got better at TE (Hockenson is #6)
- Only took a slight step back (from #6 to #9) in my starting QB. However, I got 6 years younger at my QB1 and vastly improved the ceiling of my depth over my current QB2, Sam Darnold, by getting Tua Tagovailoa.
- Jettisoned 2 depth RBs for players that were drafted (Vaughn & Kelley) to be the possible heirs to their respective team's starting RB roles.
- Took a slight step back (or a slight step forward, depending on what rankings you use) in my #1 WR moving Cooper for Golladay. At the very least, Golladay should see more red zone targets than Cooper.
Other than Mayfield and Golladay being slight steps down in the rankings from Wilson and Amari, respectively, I now have:
- Two QBs that have 97th+ percentile College QBR and have displayed rushing ability ("Konami Code" Fantasy QBs) in Baker and Tua.
- 2 of the top 4 Dynasty RBs in Saquon and Zeke, with Mixon as my RB3, and high upside handcuffs that could develop into starters.
- Multiple, young, lottery tickets at WR that could ascend to top 15 WRs in the next few years
- The #1 TE in Dynasty (Kittle) and what some view as a "generational talent" (Hockenson)
Other than the slight movements in the rankings at QB and WR, I just swapped out depth pieces that were known quantities who had already hit their ceilings.
The rankings on the Dynasty League Football website tell me that I:
- Got better at TE (Hockenson is #6)
- Only took a slight step back (from #6 to #9) in my starting QB. However, I got 6 years younger at my QB1 and vastly improved the ceiling of my depth over my current QB2, Sam Darnold, by getting Tua Tagovailoa.
- Jettisoned 2 depth RBs for players that were drafted (Vaughn & Kelley) to be the possible heirs to their respective team's starting RB roles.
- Took a slight step back (or a slight step forward, depending on what rankings you use) in my #1 WR moving Cooper for Golladay. At the very least, Golladay should see more red zone targets than Cooper.
Other than Mayfield and Golladay being slight steps down in the rankings from Wilson and Amari, respectively, I now have:
- Two QBs that have 97th+ percentile College QBR and have displayed rushing ability ("Konami Code" Fantasy QBs) in Baker and Tua.
- 2 of the top 4 Dynasty RBs in Saquon and Zeke, with Mixon as my RB3, and high upside handcuffs that could develop into starters.
- Multiple, young, lottery tickets at WR that could ascend to top 15 WRs in the next few years
- The #1 TE in Dynasty (Kittle) and what some view as a "generational talent" (Hockenson)
Other than the slight movements in the rankings at QB and WR, I just swapped out depth pieces that were known quantities who had already hit their ceilings.
10 team PPR league, 24 man rosters, 5 man taxi, 5 man IR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
Pats/VikesFan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:23 pm Man, I guess I was way off in my thought process.
The rankings on the Dynasty League Football website tell me that I:
- Got better at TE (Hockenson is #6)
- Only took a slight step back (from #6 to #9) in my starting QB. However, I got 6 years younger at my QB1 and vastly improved the ceiling of my depth over my current QB2, Sam Darnold, by getting Tua Tagovailoa.
- Jettisoned 2 depth RBs for players that were drafted (Vaughn & Kelley) to be the possible heirs to their respective team's starting RB roles.
- Took a slight step back (or a slight step forward, depending on what rankings you use) in my #1 WR moving Cooper for Golladay. At the very least, Golladay should see more red zone targets than Cooper.
Other than Mayfield and Golladay being slight steps down in the rankings from Wilson and Amari, respectively, I now have:
- Two QBs that have 97th+ percentile College QBR and have displayed rushing ability ("Konami Code" Fantasy QBs) in Baker and Tua.
- 2 of the top 4 Dynasty RBs in Saquon and Zeke, with Mixon as my RB3, and high upside handcuffs that could develop into starters.
- Multiple, young, lottery tickets at WR that could ascend to top 15 WRs in the next few years
- The #1 TE in Dynasty (Kittle) and what some view as a "generational talent" (Hockenson)
Other than the slight movements in the rankings at QB and WR, I just swapped out depth pieces that were known quantities who had already hit their ceilings.
If you're using dynasty rankings for QB you are double counting the age. Dynasty rankings build in the age of the players, otherwise Brees would be a top 3-4 QB in ranking.
From a rb prospective you took a step back and neither of those rbs you received are sure things to take over their backfields.
I think we agree on wr. You traded known talent for potential talent, it may pay off or not. I'm not against it provided you are retooling.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: Did I get better? Roster Moves: In vs. Out
No, I like your original core quite a bit better (and they obviously carried you to the 'ship) but you greatly improved on future upside potential, just remains to be seen if it pans out. Your original core was not over the hill by any means.
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