Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby repkllrs » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:16 am

Pull Kupp or Cooper from B and send it back. They are all passes as they are
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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby Jmason6009 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:25 pm

An easy no for me on all 3. B is the closest but I still don’t like it.

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby MyTeam » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:16 am

I would hold the Mahomes side in all but as others said, B isn't far off.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:11 pm

Yea I'm pretty easily passing on all 3 of these.
A - Evans isn't that much of an upgrade on Cooper to cover the Mahomes/Wilson gap. The other pieces coming back are nothings.
B - is so/so but still not close
C - Is just hot garbage. Rodgers isn't 2010 Rodgers despite all of the sports media world continuing to act like he is (he also REAL old).
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
Picks: 2023 - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby Yarnith » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:54 pm

I dont like any of them and I dont see how B is even close?

Mahomes is a Huge upgrade over Murray. Keep in mind Mahomes has more fantasy points and only played in 14 games.
Kupp and Golladay are about equal stats, points age. Essentially gain little in this.
Cooper is far better than Ridley and this is a pure Ridley hype move.
CEH is better than Conner but only if CEH is all we hope he is and Conner is a bust this year.

This is a bad trade with only 1 significant upgrade for you and a significant downgrade. That downgrade is a QB in a SF league so this is an awful idea and should not be done. Mahomes and CMC are probably the 2 players that should demand stupid overpays. It should be imbalanced but why would you even trade SF Mahomes unless you are in stupidly overpay trade in the first place?
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby Nflnz » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:35 am

Yarnith wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:54 pm I dont like any of them and I dont see how B is even close?

Mahomes is a Huge upgrade over Murray. Keep in mind Mahomes has more fantasy points and only played in 14 games.
Kupp and Golladay are about equal stats, points age. Essentially gain little in this.
Cooper is far better than Ridley and this is a pure Ridley hype move.
CEH is better than Conner but only if CEH is all we hope he is and Conner is a bust this year.

This is a bad trade with only 1 significant upgrade for you and a significant downgrade. That downgrade is a QB in a SF league so this is an awful idea and should not be done. Mahomes and CMC are probably the 2 players that should demand stupid overpays. It should be imbalanced but why would you even trade SF Mahomes unless you are in stupidly overpay trade in the first place?
Thanks for the good feedback. I have rejected all offers. Can I run one more by you that I have on the table:

Give: Mahomes, Conner, Kupp
Get: Watson, Zeke, Metcalf

Still not close?
Team1
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th

Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th

Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:31 am

Yarnith wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:54 pm I dont like any of them and I dont see how B is even close?

Mahomes is a Huge upgrade over Murray. Keep in mind Mahomes has more fantasy points and only played in 14 games.
Kupp and Golladay are about equal stats, points age. Essentially gain little in this.
Cooper is far better than Ridley and this is a pure Ridley hype move.
CEH is better than Conner but only if CEH is all we hope he is and Conner is a bust this year.

This is a bad trade with only 1 significant upgrade for you and a significant downgrade. That downgrade is a QB in a SF league so this is an awful idea and should not be done. Mahomes and CMC are probably the 2 players that should demand stupid overpays. It should be imbalanced but why would you even trade SF Mahomes unless you are in stupidly overpay trade in the first place?
“Ceh is better than conner but only if...” come on you know this is an absurd statement to help your argument. Hes going 50 spots higher in ADP and way more than that in the startups I’ve seen.

The only reason this offer wouldn’t be close other than not liking any specific players in the deal is if you feel in order to trade Mahomes you have to get absolutely blown away, which I certainly wouldn’t blame you for, but on paper this is close.

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby moishetreats » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:08 am

Nflnz wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:35 am
Give: Mahomes, Conner, Kupp
Get: Watson, Zeke, Metcalf

Still not close?
NOW I'm getting tempted...
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby Needalife » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:59 am

While the new offer is relatively even, you are downgrading at 2 spots here (unless you are super-bullish on DK). Zeke is an awesome upgrade in the deal but Mahomes is built for the long haul more so than Watson who plays a little recklessly and depends on his legs more. Kupp is a stud and I’m not liking the drop from him to DK.

I just want an overpay for Mahomes and not an even pay. He’s the #1 asset in SF for the foreseeable future.
14 TM / Devy / SuperFlex / TEP
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F


QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:06 am

Nflnz wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:35 am Thanks for the good feedback. I have rejected all offers. Can I run one more by you that I have on the table:

Give: Mahomes, Conner, Kupp
Get: Watson, Zeke, Metcalf

Still not close?
I think this is close, but I still would not do it.

Mahomes > Watson
Kupp > DK
Conner << Zeke

But Mahomes is the best piece here. So you are downgrading at two positions, QB and WR, just to upgrade at RB. I think this hurts your overall roster and competitiveness.

I think this is closer than any of the other offers though. It's heading in the right direction.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

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DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby BeeziBad » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:14 am

StripesOfKC wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:28 pm C--hell no
A--no
B--still no but the closest, especially if you are 100% on board the Kyler train
piling on. none of these are close.
The Mega Powers - 12Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - 1PPR
QB - R. Tannehill, T. Bridgewater
RB - J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, C. Akers, Z. Moss, R. Jones, R. Armstead, M. Davis, C. Edmonds
WR - J. Jeudy, H. Ruggs, T. Higgins, L. Shenault, C. Claypool, J. Reagor, C. Davis, J. Washington, B. Aiyuk, Q. Cephus, KJ Hamler, A. Lazard
TE - C. Herndon, D. Sample
Picks - 2021 - 1, 1, 1

Jabroni Beaters - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - NONPPR
QB - P. Mahomes B. Mayfield
RB - S. Barkley, E. Elliott, JK Dobbins, A. Peterson, M. Breida, D. Freeman
WR - T. Hill. AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Jefferson, J. Edelman, B. Aiyuk, L. Shenault, JJAW, B. Edwards
TE - Z. Ertz, H. Hurst, J. Smith

SuperSonics - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - .5 PPR
QB - S. Darnold, R. Tannehill, C. Newton
RB - E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Cook, R. Jones, A. Peterson
WR - T. Hill, O. Beckham, D. Metcalf, C. Davis, H. Renfrow, R. Cobb
TE - Z. Ertz, E. Engram, H. Henry, J. Smith, K. Rudolph
Picks - 2020 - 2.7
2021 - 2, 3

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Re: Multiple Mahomes offers..thoughts?

Postby yellowdart2448 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:11 pm

As many have said, if you’re the one giving up by far the most valuable piece then the other owner HAS to overpay. Anything that you look at and think is even is a loss for you. I’d say no matter what players are offered, a least one first next year has to be included if not a 2nd or another first in 2022.


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