CMC vs Kamara

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CMC vs Kamara

Postby ruggermad » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:40 am

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QB: Wilson, Dak, Herbert, Tyrod
RB: Barkley, Kamara, Chubb, Taylor, White
WR: Adams, Nuk, Robinson, Landry, Samuel
TE: Ertz, Goedert, Jarwin, Njoku

Start QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, SF

So I own five 2021 first rounders following a number of historic trades.

I’ve been offered CMC for my Kamara, my ‘21 first and the ‘21 first from last years champ

Given the current situation and uncertainty surrounding both the NFL and College football seasons would you make that deal?

Is it worth paying two late firsts for the jump up to CMC given my squad coupled with the uncertainty of college players coming into the league.

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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby FantasyFoosball » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:13 am

I’d do it for sure. I’d use another one to upgrade at your QB3 too.
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby TheBelgian » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:19 am

I have a tough time believing that the difference between CMC and Kamara is 2 firsts. Now if you’re purposely overpaying to get “over the top” then I understand the move.

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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby CurtisMyFavMartin » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:43 am

No way that seems worth it. I’d give up a LATE 1st if you have your heart set on CMC, no more than that though.
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:00 pm

Seems steep if you believe in Kamara getting back to where he was. He had a down year but should bounce back. On the other hand, CMCs workload is guaranteed which is huge for RBs.

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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby kilgorextrout » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:09 pm

Late first plus Kamara sounds about right to me. I wouldn’t pay two of them.
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby FantasyFoosball » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:36 pm

Your team is a contender and you have 5 firsts...

Value matters very little here. if this is what it would cost to get CMC, I’d do it easily. Makes your team even better and you still have 3 firsts.
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WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby imi814 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:05 pm

The thing is cmc was so much better than any other rb. His points were ridiculous last year. 2 late first does seem like a lot but that’s the price for the number one rb. Why would the other guy “downgrade” for a a pick that has a good chance to be a bust
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby StripesOfKC » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:07 pm

CMC side for me

Kamara is going to have his value slashed in a year when NO lets him walk and we see how much of his fantasy value comes from Brees and Payton

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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby Edgy68 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:19 am

Why haven’t you made that Watson trade yet?
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby CL3VELANDBR0WNS » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:35 am

If that team still didn't win it all last year, maybe it is worth it. The value on paper isn't very good but I wouldn't blame you for putting all your chips in. I'd lean towards taking it. The best you are going to get that late are 2 WRs who won't contribute as rookies in a covid wrecked offseason.
Kamara's injury history & CMC's dominance point to a somewhat substantial gap for this year and then Kamara's value is a wildcard at the end of the season whereas you could always sell CMC for a similar return at end of season. Just a thought but maybe that gets too far into projections.

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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:41 am

I'd say it's an early first at least. CMC destroyed Kamara last year. He's guaranteed volume. With your team, and 5 firsts, I'd do it. 2021 class is going to have a real tough time being relevant with the current situation. I'd do it.
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby AresGodOWar3 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:27 pm

TheBelgian wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:19 am I have a tough time believing that the difference between CMC and Kamara is 2 firsts. Now if you’re purposely overpaying to get “over the top” then I understand the move.
I agree 2 1sts on top of Kamara is just too much to pay
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Re: CMC vs Kamara

Postby dblj1199 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:55 pm

I'm looking at it totally differently here than everyone else I guess. We are in dynasty leagues here, so you want to build a long standing competitive roster. Your team is already stacked with your roster. So you add 1 more first rd players and say next year you sell off Nuk or Adams for a additional 1st and a high end young player, the following your the same thing with another player. Then as long as you are drafting well your team will be DEEP and contending for several years to come. So I'm passing and sticking with your team.
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