Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

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Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby TroyH » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:29 am

I posted a previous trade proposal that included a contingency in it. We recently negotiated and removed the contingency. With my team below would you make this trade?

Send: 1.02 (CEH), Juju, and Cooks
Receive: Hopkins, 1.06, and 1.07


I view it as Juju for 1.06 and 1.07 and then CEH/Cooks for Nuk. I think my team is a contender and I plan to take JT with the 1.01.

I'm just worried now is a bad time to buy Hopkins with his age and him being on a new team, or is this cheap enough to get him?
10 team league, Non-ppr, Standard (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, WR/RB/TE)
QB: Rodgers
RB: Zeke, Mixon, Taylor, Akers, B. Love
WR: OBJ, Hopkins, Ridley, Jeudy, Pittman, Aiyuk, Edelman, Watkins, Shepard
TE: Engram, H. Henry, I. Thomas, Njoku
2021: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:32 am

If you are a contender for the next year or two, I would rather gamble on Hopkins.

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Re: Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby yellowdart2448 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:33 am

I say make the trade. You are a contending team and Nuk is much better than Juju. Not saying Juju can't be great but he hasn't technically shown it yet. You know Nuk is great. You're already getting JT and there are great players that will be there at the 1.06 and 1.07 (like possibly Lamb/Jeudy/Swift/Akers/Burrow).
Team 1
12 team SF 30 man roster 6 practice squad
QB 3 WR 2 RB TE W/R/T SF K 11 IDP 9 BN 5 IR
QB Jackson Big Ben Hurts (P)
RB Elliott Kamara Singletary Darrel Williams Pollard (P) J Hill (P)
WR Hopkins Golladay K Allen E Sanders Lamb (P) P Williams J Ross Lazard P Campbell (P)
TE Andrews Dissly Jarwin
IDP D Jones M Milano K Murray J Baker W Gay A Donald C. Jones Ioannidis Awuzie C Davis III Byard T Rapp

Team 2
16 team franchise SF 30 man roster (Colts)
QB 3 WR 2 RB TE Flex SF K 11 IDP BN 5 IR
QB Wentz Tannehill Foles Hurts Eason
RB M Sanders Carson J Taylor Breida
WR Hilton Green B Cooks Reagor Perriman V. Jefferson T Johnson
TE Ertz Goedert
IDP K.J. Wright M Judon L David D Taylor C Jordan C Campbell Byard

Team 3
10 team SF 30 man roster
QB 3 WR 2 RB TE W/T flex SF 10 BN 5 IR
QB Watson Ryan Jones Bridgewater Trubisky
RB Elliott Carson Dobbins Akers Hines Gore
WR Adams Godwin Boyd Samuels E Sanders Crowder Lazard Edwards
TE Ertz Gesicki Hurst Herndon Burton

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Re: Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby TroyH » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:35 am

yellowdart2448 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:33 am
I say make the trade. You are a contending team and Nuk is much better than Juju. Not saying Juju can't be great but he hasn't technically shown it yet. You know Nuk is great. You're already getting JT and there is great players that will be there at the 1.06 and 1.07 (like possibly Lamb/Jeudy/Swift/Akers/Burrow).
One guy owns picks 3 through 5 and he has made it known that Dobbins and Lamb are being taken, so with those two picks I foresee 2 of Jeudy, Swift, or Akers.
10 team league, Non-ppr, Standard (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, WR/RB/TE)
QB: Rodgers
RB: Zeke, Mixon, Taylor, Akers, B. Love
WR: OBJ, Hopkins, Ridley, Jeudy, Pittman, Aiyuk, Edelman, Watkins, Shepard
TE: Engram, H. Henry, I. Thomas, Njoku
2021: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby yellowdart2448 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:42 am

TroyH wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:35 am
yellowdart2448 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:33 am
I say make the trade. You are a contending team and Nuk is much better than Juju. Not saying Juju can't be great but he hasn't technically shown it yet. You know Nuk is great. You're already getting JT and there is great players that will be there at the 1.06 and 1.07 (like possibly Lamb/Jeudy/Swift/Akers/Burrow).
One guy owns picks 3 through 5 and he has made it known that Dobbins and Lamb are being taken, so with those two picks I foresee 2 of Jeudy, Swift, or Akers.
I would be perfectly fine with Jeudy and Swift. If Akers is left, you could argue taking Burrow over Akers since Rodgers is knocking on retirement. Regardless, I say take the trade and be happy with three young players who should all contribute this year + Nuk.
Team 1
12 team SF 30 man roster 6 practice squad
QB 3 WR 2 RB TE W/R/T SF K 11 IDP 9 BN 5 IR
QB Jackson Big Ben Hurts (P)
RB Elliott Kamara Singletary Darrel Williams Pollard (P) J Hill (P)
WR Hopkins Golladay K Allen E Sanders Lamb (P) P Williams J Ross Lazard P Campbell (P)
TE Andrews Dissly Jarwin
IDP D Jones M Milano K Murray J Baker W Gay A Donald C. Jones Ioannidis Awuzie C Davis III Byard T Rapp

Team 2
16 team franchise SF 30 man roster (Colts)
QB 3 WR 2 RB TE Flex SF K 11 IDP BN 5 IR
QB Wentz Tannehill Foles Hurts Eason
RB M Sanders Carson J Taylor Breida
WR Hilton Green B Cooks Reagor Perriman V. Jefferson T Johnson
TE Ertz Goedert
IDP K.J. Wright M Judon L David D Taylor C Jordan C Campbell Byard

Team 3
10 team SF 30 man roster
QB 3 WR 2 RB TE W/T flex SF 10 BN 5 IR
QB Watson Ryan Jones Bridgewater Trubisky
RB Elliott Carson Dobbins Akers Hines Gore
WR Adams Godwin Boyd Samuels E Sanders Crowder Lazard Edwards
TE Ertz Gesicki Hurst Herndon Burton

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Re: Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:28 pm

Give me Hopkins side here. I'd make this trade. You upgrade from Juju to Hopkins. You still get to take Taylor at 1.01, and you have the 1.06/1.07 where you are getting at least one of Swift/Jeudy, if not both.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05

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Re: Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby M-Dub » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:14 pm

I actually slightly prefer JuJu to Nuk. I think your concerns about Nuk moving to a new team are valid, and the data backs it up. I wouldn’t expect more than high end WR2 production from him this year, maybe back end WR1 at best. Next thing you know, it’s next offseason, he’s entering his age 29 season and people are starting to call him old. Give me the guy who’s four and a half years younger and has shown elite production with a healthy Big Ben.

So it really comes down to whether you think 1.02/Cooks is a good price for 1.06/1.07. I’m inclined to say it isn’t. Fortunately, this trade doesn’t really have a huge effect on your starting lineup, other than replacing JuJu with Nuk and losing Cooks as bench depth, so I don’t think it hurts your title chances either way. It really comes down to how you want to build for the future. I’d prefer CEH to a pair of mid 1sts.

Edit: Oh yeah, I almost forgot. If you do end up making the trade, definitely ignore the guy telling you to take Burrow with a mid 1st in a 12-team 1QB league. That’d be an absolutely horrible decision.
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RB: CMC, Mixon, Lindsay, Gallman, M. Davis, Pollard, Booker
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Woods, Keenan, Crowder, Sammy, Coulter
TE: Ertz, Irv Smith, L. Thomas
Taxi: Tua, McFarland, Joe Reed, Hurts

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RB: CMC, Sanders, Mixon, Dobbins, Foreman
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RB: CEH $26/5, Vaughn $9/4, Coleman $17/2, Gallman $1/1, Breida $1/1
WR: Godwin $50/3, DJM $43/3, Fuller $14/1, Crowder $21/1, Sanders $20/1, Mims $6/5, Edwards $3/5, Hamler $2/3, Patrick $1/1, Lazard $1/1, D. Moore $1/1
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Re: Trade Offer: Juju for Nuk

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:16 pm

Juju is nothing special

Hopkins side by default
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger


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