Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

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Cooper vs OBJ

1) Cooper
16
40%
2) OBJ
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60%
 
Total votes: 40

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Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby PhillySpecial » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:37 pm

Which WR straight up?
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:39 pm

OBJ all day.

Still a top 5ish WR on talent--probably not in fantasy but still...

Cooper is not and never has been that
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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:41 pm

Cooper. He was more consistent with the Cowboys. I dont view Beckham as a top 10 guy though.

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:41 pm

Coop.
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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby MyTeam » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:36 am

The ADP is so close but personally I avoid both of these players like the plague (which apparently doesn't mean much if you live in the US)
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby PhillySpecial » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:36 am

I am trying to offload Cooper and it seems like OBJ may be a good buy 'low'..
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby FantasyFoosball » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:38 am

They are pretty even for me. I slightly lean OBJ. I don't think I'd add anything to either one.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby Z$$$ » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:50 am

Don’t care for either but for the sake of this post, Cooper
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11

16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby Edgy68 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:02 pm

MyTeam wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:36 am The ADP is so close but personally I avoid both of these players like the plague (which apparently doesn't mean much if you live in the US)
Sadly, how true...
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN

Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby dblj1199 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:11 am

I own both. Cooper has never got the respect, but produces and he seems to be Daks go to guy. OBJ started out like no other wr ever, went through (still in??) a diva phase, was banged up, but can he produce elite numbers again. Consistency give me Cooper, upside OBJ.
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

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2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby MyTeam » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:42 am

dblj1199 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:11 am I own both. Cooper has never got the respect, but produces and he seems to be Daks go to guy. OBJ started out like no other wr ever, went through (still in??) a diva phase, was banged up, but can he produce elite numbers again. Consistency give me Cooper, upside OBJ.
This is my issue with both players, Cooper had 6 games under 10 points last year and is the more consistent of the two...
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby Yarnith » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:37 pm

I avoid risky players when possible and Cooper and OBJ both are. I go Cooper mostly because of attitude. Cooper had issues in Oakland but we heard no beef and he got traded and thrived. OBJ acts out like a 5yr old in Walmart when things aren't going his way and seems to get worse as time passes. Also I am excited to see if having a 1a 1b situation in Dallas doesn't mitigate those games he cant seem to make himself a factor. I feel strongly Ceedee is gonna demand respect very quickly and Gallup for his faults is plenty good enough to demand solid coverage so Amari may really thrive.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu

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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby AresGodOWar3 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:37 pm

I would take OBJ , I just dont like Cooper much
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(9) 12 Team SF, .15 PPCompletion, WR 1.25 PPR, .2 PPCarry, TE 2 PPR
QB-K.Murray, D.Jones, B.Mayfield, Z.Wilson, R.Tannehill, T.Taylor
RB-A.Ekeler, J.Jacobs, D.Swift, K.Gainwell, J.Kelley
WR-D.Smith, C.Godwin, M.Brown, DJ.Moore M.Williams, R.Woods
TE-D.Schultz, T.Hill, J.Johnson

(10) 14 Team SF, WR 1.25 PPR, .2 PPCarry, TE 2 PPR
QB-P.Mahomes, K.Murray J.Dobbs, C.Tune, C.Henne
RB-T.Pollard, Mixon, A.Gibson, L.Fournette, C.Hubbard
WR-S.Diggs, A.Thielen, J.Jeudy, C.Watson, B.Cooks, C.Samuel, R.Moore, M.Jones
TE-D.Waller, D.Schultz, J.Johnson

(11) 14 Team SF .15 PPCompletion, WR 1.25 PPR, .2 PPCarry, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, G.Smith, T.Huntley, D.Lock
RB-J.Mixon, A.Mattison, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, D.Jackson C.Evans
WR-C.Kupp, A.Cooper, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, B.Cooks, D.Parker
TE-Z.Ertz, J.Ferguson

(12) 14 Team SF .15 PPCompletion, WR 1.25 PPR, .2PPCarry, TE 2 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, D.Jones, J.Brissett
RB-Jav.Williams, Z.Moss, S.Perine, C.Edwards-Helaire, D.Foreman, C.Patterson, D.Jackson
WR-C.Godwin, M.Brown, C.Samuel, A.Lazard, DJ.Chark, KJ.Osborn
TE-G.Kittle, D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby Needalife » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:19 pm

OBJ was WR35 in ppg averagine 12.5. He'll be 28 this season and they brought in a coach who likes to run. I think OBJ is a monster talent but I don't think he'll realize that potential in CLE. Cooper is the top option with a solid new contract on an explosive offense. He can be inconsistent but I still give the edge here over OBJ.

What is their value in rookie picks? Curious. I paid 1.09/2.01/2.07 for Cooper. Felt about right or maybe a slight overpay. I would not have paid the same for OBJ.
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1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F


QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
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Re: Cooper vs OBJ (Poll)

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:22 pm

Needalife wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:19 pm OBJ was WR35 in ppg averagine 12.5. He'll be 28 this season and they brought in a coach who likes to run. I think OBJ is a monster talent but I don't think he'll realize that potential in CLE. Cooper is the top option with a solid new contract on an explosive offense. He can be inconsistent but I still give the edge here over OBJ.

What is their value in rookie picks? Curious. I paid 1.09/2.01/2.07 for Cooper. Felt about right or maybe a slight overpay. I would not have paid the same for OBJ.
OBJ to me is equal to 1.3 (Dobbins) dependent on team needs. Cooper to me is equal to 1.4 (Swift) also dependent on team needs

Even being really low on Cooper I'd pay 1.9/2.1/2.7 for him (or OBJ for that matter)


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