How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

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How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby throwaway1604 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:45 am

Team 3 below. Have a guy willing to add a 2nd and 3rd + Jalen Richard to Watson for Jackson. I countered that I'd like a 1st added to Watson or maybe Tyler Lockett. Thoughts? I am one of top 4 teams IMO so contending. I don't think they're that far apart long term but how about in 2020 with Watson losing Nuk?
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NON-Superflex, Full PPR, Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX

10 Team
QB: Rodgers, Tannehil, Lance
RB: Cook, Chubb, Taylor, Hunt, Drake, Davis, Mattison, Penny
WR: MT, Nuk, Evans, Hill, Sutton, D. Smith, OBJ, E Moore, Renfrow
TE: Kittle, Schultz, Higbee, Njoku
22: 3rd, 4th
23: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
24: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

12 team
QB: Ryan, Hurts
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Henderson, Bernard, Michel, Mcnichols
WR: DJM, Sutton, Thielen, Gallup, OBJ, Toney, Kirk, Mims, Harry, Slayton
TE: Kittle, Pitts

22: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
23: 1st, 3rd (x2), 4th
24: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th


12 Team
QB: Jackson, Mayfield
RB: Taylor, J. Williams, Mack, Guice, D. Evans
WR: AJB, Godwin, Toney, Harry, Reynolds, Wilson
TE: Jonnu, Doyle
22: 1st, 2nd (x3), 4th
23: 1st (x3), 2nd (x2), 3rd (x2), 4th
24: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd (x2), 4th
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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby abloom » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:49 am

His offer was more than generous. I think their difference is probably about a second in a 1QB league
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby Prison_Mike » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:01 pm

abloom wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:49 am His offer was more than generous. I think their difference is probably about a second in a 1QB league
x2

Your concerns are valid, but I think it's unlikely for anyone to add a 1st.
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12
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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:09 pm

If I'm contending, I'd hold Jackson unless I'm getting a first added. No need to move him. A random second and third don't do much for me, as Jackson > Watson.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby Sinatra's Liver » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:20 pm

I have both LJax and Watson, so I have a bye week issue in Week 8. Therefore, one of them needs to get traded.
10 Team, PPR, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1K, 4 IDPs - Best Ball
QB: Lawrence, Watson, Richardson, Carr
RB: Barkley, KW3, JavWilliams, Pollard, Dillon, Charb, Abanikanda, Rodriguez
WR: Lamb, AJBrown, Dotson, JSN, M Evans, Watson, JPalmer
TE: Andrews, Goedert, Kmet
K: Butker, Hopkins, Aubrey
DE: Gary, J Phillips, Rousseau, Wilkins
LB: Wagner, DevWhite, Roquan, E Jones, Nakobe, DevLloyd, CHarris, Dennis
DB: Derwin J, Brisker, Pitre, Hamilton
Picks: #4, #7, #11, #13, #17
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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 pm

I would want a 1st on top of Watson even in a 1 QB league. I'm guessing not many owners would pay that.
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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:38 pm

For my team 1 I got offered Watson , 1.10 for Jackson but denied it , I think it was fair though
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby abloom » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:10 pm

Gator Sens wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 pm I would want a 1st on top of Watson even in a 1 QB league. I'm guessing not many owners would pay that.
Personally I wouldn't even spend a random first on Jackson alone in a 1 QB, but that's just me. I'm probably in the very small minority of not the only one on that island. A late 1st I'd consider, but in a 12 team 1 QB league I just don't like giving up that first for a QB when I can grab a Tannehill or someone else like that on waivers.


Edit:
Certainly I can see a first plus Watson being offered, just looked at the dlf trade analyzer and it values the difference between Watson and Jackson as a 2021 first.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby MFundercover » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:19 pm

I personally think Lamar is worth more than most people, even in 1 qb. The week to week scoring gap is just so much between him and the Watson/Dak/Wilson/Kyler tier. If I had Lamar, I would need at least a 1st to consider. I would probably want more than that tbh.

I have Watson, I'd love to upgrade to Lamar for a 2nd.
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