How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

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How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby throwaway1604 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:45 am

Team 3 below. Have a guy willing to add a 2nd and 3rd + Jalen Richard to Watson for Jackson. I countered that I'd like a 1st added to Watson or maybe Tyler Lockett. Thoughts? I am one of top 4 teams IMO so contending. I don't think they're that far apart long term but how about in 2020 with Watson losing Nuk?
All teams Non-SF PPR, Req. starters bold

'18 Startup 10 Team
'19 2nd Place
QB: Rodgers, Trubisky
RB: Cook, Chubb, Drake, Taylor, Hunt, Penny, Barber, Mattison, Duke J,
WR: MT, Nuk, Hill, Evans, Sutton Hilton, J Brown, Reynolds,
TE: Kittle, Higbee, Graham, Njoku
Taxi: Renfrow, K Johnson, T Williams, V Jefferson
Picks: 2021 1st, 2nd(x2), 3rd, 4th 2022 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th


'19 Startup 12 Team
QB: Ryan, Roethlisberger
RB: Mixon, Taylor, Michel, Penny, Bernard, Smith
WR: Beckham, Moore, Sutton, Gallup, Slayton Harry, Bourne, Wilson, JJAW, Hurd, R Higgins
TE: Kittle, Fant
Taxi: Mims, Duvernay, Hurts
Picks: 2021 1st, 4th 2022 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

'20 Startup 12 Team
QB: Jackson, Darnold, Winston
RB: Jacobs, Taylor, Guice, D. Evans, Dallas, Freeman, Anderson
WR: MT, AJB, Landry, Boyd, Tate Harry, Lazerd
TE: Kittle, Sternberger, Everett, Okwuegnbunam
Picks: 2021 4th 2022 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby abloom » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:49 am

His offer was more than generous. I think their difference is probably about a second in a 1QB league
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Sutton
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby Prison_Mike » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:01 pm

abloom wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:49 am
His offer was more than generous. I think their difference is probably about a second in a 1QB league
x2

Your concerns are valid, but I think it's unlikely for anyone to add a 1st.
Team 1:
12-team | Half PPR | 1QB
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX
QB: Dak, Hurts, Bridgewater
RB: Saquon, Sanders, Mostert, Hines, Pollard, Penny, Coleman
WR: Godwin, OBJ, Kirk, Mooney, MJJ, Crowder, Patrick, G.Davis, Meyers, Tyrell
TE: Jonnu, Herndon, I.Thomas
2021 Picks: 1.05, 3.02, 3.08, 4.06, 4.09

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | 1QB
Start: 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLX/DST/K
QB: Dak/Dalton, Big Ben, Garropolo, Cam
RB: Zeke, Sanders, Dobbins, J.Robinson, White, D-Will, Bell, Justice
WR: Hopkins, Keenan, Boyd, DJM, Lamb, Mooney, AB, T.Johnson
TE: Waller, Hocken, Herndon, Oliver

Team 3: - *STARTUP DRAFT IN PROGRESS*
12-team | SuperFlex | Tiered PPR - (TEs = 1.25ppr, WRs = 0.75, RBs = 0.25)
Start: 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/4FLEX/1SF
QB: Jackson, Wilson, Winston, Tyrod
RB: Sanders, Montgomery, Mack, Evans, Gallman, Ingram, McKinnon
WR: Thomas, Beckham, Kupp, Lockett, Gallup, Kirk, S.Miller, J.Brown, Tyrell, Conley, Quez
TE: Fant, Kmet, Ertz, Njoku, Akins, I.Thomas
2021 Rookie Picks: 1.07, 4.09

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:09 pm

If I'm contending, I'd hold Jackson unless I'm getting a first added. No need to move him. A random second and third don't do much for me, as Jackson > Watson.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby Ahwatukee Brewer » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:20 pm

I have both LJax and Watson, so I have a bye week issue in Week 8. Therefore, one of them needs to get traded.
10 Team, 0.5 PPR, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1K, 4 IDPs - Best Ball
QB: Lamar, Watson, Rivers, ASmith
RB: Barkley, Kamara, Mixon, CEH, Dillon, Pollard, Harris
WR: M Thomas, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Jeudy, Lamb, B Edwards, Pittman, ColJohnson
TE: Henry, Jonnu, Dalton
K: Myers, Badgely
DE: Hunter, Josh Allen, Clark, JPP, Hubbard
LB: Wagner, DevWhite, Cunningham, Queen, I Simmons, AlexJohnson
DB: Darwin, Bates, Abram, Simmons

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 pm

I would want a 1st on top of Watson even in a 1 QB league. I'm guessing not many owners would pay that.

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:38 pm

For my team 1 I got offered Watson , 1.10 for Jackson but denied it , I think it was fair though
(TEAM 1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRY, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Goff
RB-S.Barkley, D.Cook, C.McCaffrey, E.Elliott, A.Ekeler, A.Mattison, T.Pollard, M.Davis
WR-T.Hill, C.Ridley, DJ.Moore, K.Allen, B.Cooks, M.Hardman
TE-D.Goedert, A.Trautman

(TEAM 2) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-D.Watson, B.Roethlisberger
RB-A.Kamara, J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, J.R.Dobbins, L.Fournette, S.Michel, L.Murray
WR-T.Hill, M.Evans, B.Cooks, J.Jeudy, M.Jones, W.Fuller
TE-E.Engram

(TEAM 3) 12 Team, .15 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, D.Carr
RB-D.Cook, C.Carson, L.Fournette, A.Mattison
WR-S.Diggs, A.Thielen, T.Boyd, C.Kupp, B.Cooks, S.Shepard, R.Gage
TE-D.Waller, E.Engram

(TEAM 4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPC, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, C.Newton, G.Minshew
RB-C.McCaffery, M.Gordon, K.Drake, J.Conner
WR-D.Adams, K.Golladay, B.Cooks, D.Parker
TE-H.Hurst, L.Thomas, T.Higbee


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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby abloom » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:10 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 pm
I would want a 1st on top of Watson even in a 1 QB league. I'm guessing not many owners would pay that.
Personally I wouldn't even spend a random first on Jackson alone in a 1 QB, but that's just me. I'm probably in the very small minority of not the only one on that island. A late 1st I'd consider, but in a 12 team 1 QB league I just don't like giving up that first for a QB when I can grab a Tannehill or someone else like that on waivers.


Edit:
Certainly I can see a first plus Watson being offered, just looked at the dlf trade analyzer and it values the difference between Watson and Jackson as a 2021 first.
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Sutton
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: How Far Apart Are LJackson + Deshaun Watson (1qb)

Postby MFundercover » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:19 pm

I personally think Lamar is worth more than most people, even in 1 qb. The week to week scoring gap is just so much between him and the Watson/Dak/Wilson/Kyler tier. If I had Lamar, I would need at least a 1st to consider. I would probably want more than that tbh.

I have Watson, I'd love to upgrade to Lamar for a 2nd.
Team 1 (Main)

12 team .5ppr. 1QB 2RB 2 WR 3 Flex 1 TE

QB: Watson

RB: Sanders, A Jones, Drake, Harris, Scott, Edmonds, J Williams, R Freeman

WR: Hopkins, Adams, Evans, Metcalf, Higgins, G Tate, K. Cole, DeSean, Reynolds, Isabella, G Ward

TE: Henry, Schultz, Allie-Cox

IR: Sutton, Njoku, St. Brown

Taxi: Cephus, C Johnson

- 2021 1.09, 1.12, 2.07 5.12

Team 2 (Orphan)

QB: Wentz, Cousins, Fitzpatrick, Stidham, Eason

RB: Singletary, Moss, Breida, J Williams, Bowden, Yeldon

WR: Reagor, Diontae, Campbell, G Tate, Alshon, Bourne, Ross, Erickson, Lee, Humphries, Collin Johnson, Peoples Jones

TE: Hurst, Cook, Eifert, Graham, Griffin, Hollister, Trautman

2021: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


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