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When To Sell Studs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:29 pm
by throwaway1604
Team 1 in sig narrowly came in 2nd place last year and is one of two or three heavy favorites. However, I have WRs/RBs all around probable peak value as opposed to long term guys. How do I churn this roster to keep it competitive yearly instead of a short window? I know 10 team is about actually having and keeping the studs but any thoughts? Obviously there's easy takes here like selling Drake or Hilton for some youth but I'm talking about my top 36 ranked players (Nuk, Evans, Cook) for example

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:46 pm
by Gator Sens
Tough question. I think in season is the best time to sell high end players if your team is not performing as expected. On the flip side, if your team is a contender, sometimes there is no good time to sell studs and its simply better to keep them. If it's not broke, no reason to tinker.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:59 am
by Overachiever77
Gator Sens wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:46 pm Tough question. I think in season is the best time to sell high end players if your team is not performing as expected. On the flip side, if your team is a contender, sometimes there is no good time to sell studs and its simply better to keep them. If it's not broke, no reason to tinker.
Exactly

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:22 am
by Zacsby
Agree with the posts above. I wouldn't make any trades with that team that are geared more toward the future unless things aren't going your way in season.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:51 am
by dblj1199
It's a hard question because there never is a good time. You sell them too early and you regret it, too late and you regret it. I was going to sell off Megatron a few years ago and he retired. I was going to sell off AP and he was suspended. I held on to AJG, AB for too long........but I won championships 2 of 3 years. So if you are contending and can win it go for it. Your team is solid and really needs a high end young qb. You could probably afford to deal a wr for picks / youth and you still have the depth to deal with that. Other than that I'd go for it.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:05 am
by BradysBunch
I trade them when I can get a great deal for me or when I think they are at their peak trade value. That being said, it doesn't always work out for me. I win some and lose some. I had Chubb and Evans this year that I wanted to trade away and get younger. I traded Chubb for the 1.1 and m. Brown. My thought process was I was getting younger at RB ( took CEH ). I think they will be close this year in PPG. I will take the chance on the youth. Brown was a bonus for me. I ended up trading him for the 2.1 and took Lamb when he fell. I tried trading Evans for a top 6 pick and a young wr I liked. No one wanted Evans. I even tried next year's first and a wr. No luck. I found a bottom team ( should be top two pick next year ) and gave Evans for his first and b. Edwards. Then flipped that pick and a 3rd for DJM. My point is, I want to stay young and competitive at all times. No one is ever off limits. I don't want to get caught holding a stud who is on the downturn where I can't sell him. I have been trying to sell Hopkins too. But I will be patient and wait for the right deal. Worst case, I keep him and try for another championship.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:18 am
by pmart33
In a perfect world you sell players at the perfect time... but this is dynasty so there is no such thing as a perfect world, or so it seems. With stud RBs I am okay selling a year too early rather than a year too late. Typically Their values balloon 3-4 years into their careers and then dip significantly. With WRs I wait until they get into their late 20s. Idk about other leagues but in the 3 leagues I play in WR values go down drastically once age 30 rolls around, despite many of them maintaining solid production.

For your team, I’d hold for now and compete. That’s a good roster, so play to win. Just be ready to move your vets for picks and young guys should the season not go well.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:19 am
by moishetreats
What happens after a player peaks is one of two things (since, in theory, they can't go higher):

1) They have a slow drop-off; or
2) They have a big drop-off.

You goal in selling studs is to identify which of them you think will have a big drop-off. For instance, a couple years ago, I was coming off a championship season and sold D. Freeman after his second big season. One year ago, off second-place finish in one league and a championship in another, I sold off James Conner. This past March, I sold A. Jones after a championship. (Don't worry: I've had my share of misses, too!)

The point is to consider which studs you think will have a quick drop. Those are the ones to sell -- even at 85% of their value -- to get future assets.

With that in mind, I see Hill and Kittle as the only must-keeps. Everyone else goes on the block for feelers.

For this guys, I would only sell at 100% of value or more:
-MT, Sutton, maybe Evans

For these guys, I'd take 85%-100% of value:
-Cook, Chubb, Drake, Nuk, Evans if not above

Everybody else could fall in the 75%-85% range if you want to move them.

One other note: Keep flipping back-end-of-the-roster players for mid-round draft picks. You don't need to wait for those guys to develop in a win-now team. That does two things. First, it gives you trade ammo in the future as additional throw-ins. Second, it keeps a couple of roster spots open for bye-week fillers and/or for new upside stashes that you can then continue to flip.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:28 am
by Zech13
Just my thoughts....it’s about championships. Drive it till the wheels fall off. Each team I have will have a different strategy based on the rosters. You can usually sell an aging vet for a 2nd or 3rd round pick so loading up on those can refill the youth pool.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:56 am
by makemeasandwich
QB’s and TE’s I tend to hold unless I get an obvious overpay. RB I try and sell during their age 24-25 season/offseason and WR during their age 26-27 season/offseason. It’s the ole’ Matt Kelley philosophy, but it’s worked out pretty well for me so far. Usually if you put players on the trade bait right after their peak season you’ll have people reaching out to you, which puts the trade leverage in your corner. WR’s are more forgiving in term of holding their value, but wait too long on an RB and their value plummets.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:58 pm
by Edgy68
For Wasteland, I sold Evans and Adams in a retooling move. I got C. Ridley, 1.01 (CEH in PPR), 1.05 (Lamb), and the 2021 1st from the team that earned 1.01 this year. Adams will be awesome this year, but one more concussion may put him in Cooks territory. I don’t know that Evans gets the targets like he did from Winston. I think I helped my team for the future and remained competitive now.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:53 pm
by FantasyFreak
Tough call, with all the uncertainty right now, losing this season would be a big blow for you value wise, and obviously because you lose a year in a win window. IF you believe we will have a season, hold, if you don't, start moving guys like MT and Nuk for some youth.

Re: When To Sell Studs

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:36 am
by FantasyFoosball
Pretty easy for me. If I’m contending I hold all my guys. If I’m not contending, and guys are starting to age, I sell them. If I have a lot of depth, I’ll sell some studs to upgrade to an elite guy.