Gurley Trade

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Never Veto » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am

Whatever happened to taking proven talent over lottery tickets?
20 Team Superflex (1/2 PPR / 6pt TD's)
11 Starters - QB 1(2), RB 2(4), WR 2(5), TE 2(3)



QB - Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins
RB - Kenyan Drake, JK Dobbins, Tony Pollard, Rashaad Penny
WR - Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Odell Bechkam Jr, Tim Patrick
TE - Jonnu Smith, Zach Ertz, OJ Howard, Foster Moreau
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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby abloom » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:15 am

Never Veto wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am
Whatever happened to taking proven talent over lottery tickets?
It's the injury risk and downward production to worry about. Would you take Julio over the 1.01?
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

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Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Edwards, AB, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
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2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby pmart33 » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:21 am

abloom wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:15 am
Never Veto wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am
Whatever happened to taking proven talent over lottery tickets?
It's the injury risk and downward production to worry about. Would you take Julio over the 1.01?
X2. It's all about what you think an asset will produce for you from this point moving forward.
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RB: Chubb, Mixon, Fournette, Bell, Hunt, Pollard, Gio,
WR: Metcalf, Brown, Diggs, Cooper, Golladay, Jeudy, Mims, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Irv Smith Jr.

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12 Team PPR (Entering Year 3)
Starters: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex (WR/RB/TE)

QB: Wentz, Jones, Rivers, Ben
RB: CMC, CEH, Taylor, Swift, Justice Hill, Wilkins
WR: Adams, Juju, Evans, Moore, Higgins, Crowder, Reagor, JJAW
TE: Ertz, Goedert

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RB: Hunt, Akers, Hines, Lindsay, Wilson jr.
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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Space Cowboy » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:25 am

I sold Gurley for a 1st months ago and haven't regretted the move at all.

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Yarnith » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:33 am

The thing with Gurley is for 2 years he has been a TD dependant asset that it often felt was force fed the ball so he could score and justify his contract. I love Gurley as a guy but when I breakdown his gamelogs he makes my palms sweat.
12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex


QB: J. Allen, J. Goff, D. Haskins

RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CE,H, Ty Johnson, B. Love, D. Guice, R. Calais, D. Washington

WR: A.J. Brown, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Schuster, A. Cooper, R. Woods, D. Slayton, P. Williams, H. Ruggs, D. Mims, T. Smith, KJ Hamler

TE: G. Kittle, H. Henry

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:04 am

Never Veto wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am
Whatever happened to taking proven talent over lottery tickets?
This is especially true if you are competing, which you are not. Gurley does not put your team over the top. The other issue is that you did not just give up a first for him, but you gave up a first and a second. JJAW has little to no value here.

That first and second round pick would have been much better for you long term, and your team would be in better shape with the picks.

But good luck.
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QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

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2022 - None

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QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Space Cowboy » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:17 am

Never Veto wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am
Whatever happened to taking proven talent over lottery tickets?
Is he still even proven? He might be unemployed 12 months from now, it's not that far fetched.

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Johnny Canuck » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:46 am

Gurley is the definition of a boom/bust asset.

Like others have said, he could be out of the league soon, but he also could maintain his production and quell some of these arthritis fears much like Matt Forte did midway into his career.

I like the trade myself, and think Gurley has a big bounce back year. So good on you for shooting for the upside. Atlanta is a good offense, they throw to their backs, primarily use one back, and only have Gurley on a cheap one yr deal - so they won't be protecting their long term contractual asset.

(this part is more for other ppl but I guess it might relate to the OP) But if after reading most of these other posts you now want to sell, I'd wait until week 3/4 of the season when he's playing great with higher touches (than last season), and the arthritic fears have subsided a bit. The probability is high that he will still be healthy in the early yr, and then at least you've bought low and sold high.
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QB: Rodgers, Baker
RB: Ekeler, Gurley, David Johnson, Hunt, Sony, Mckinnon, Love, Guice
WR: AJB, Hilton, AJG, Hollywood Brown, Laviska, Antonio Brown, Washington, Renfrow
TE: Kittle, Gesicki

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby vbbish » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:13 am

I did a similar deal for Gurley in a win now situation.

I like it. Trade for picks after you win the Ship!
8th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league
QB: L. Jackson, Brees
RB: Gurley, M. Gordon, R. Penny, M. Ingram, T. Cohen, D. Montgomery, JT, Dillon
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, AJG, Boyd, Diggs, J. Brown
TE: Ertz, E. Engram, Kmet
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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Never Veto » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:16 pm

vbbish wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:13 am
I did a similar deal for Gurley in a win now situation.

I like it. Trade for picks after you win the Ship!
Right, I thought the whole point was to win. I think the Falcons are going to use Gurley as a bell cow, and the Falcons offense is way more explosive than the Rams.
20 Team Superflex (1/2 PPR / 6pt TD's)
11 Starters - QB 1(2), RB 2(4), WR 2(5), TE 2(3)



QB - Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins
RB - Kenyan Drake, JK Dobbins, Tony Pollard, Rashaad Penny
WR - Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Odell Bechkam Jr, Tim Patrick
TE - Jonnu Smith, Zach Ertz, OJ Howard, Foster Moreau
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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Yarnith » Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:14 am

Never Veto wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:16 pm
vbbish wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:13 am
I did a similar deal for Gurley in a win now situation.

I like it. Trade for picks after you win the Ship!
Right, I thought the whole point was to win. I think the Falcons are going to use Gurley as a bell cow, and the Falcons offense is way more explosive than the Rams.
I know last year was dismal but isn't this the Rams offense that put up record breaking numbers beating KC on Monday night in a historic shootout? I mean the Falcons may have a more explosive offense but then again maybe Gurley being unable to perform is part of way the Rams fell so hard so fast? I am not saying its true but you have no doubts at all he was a victim of a bad system and not a contributor to its failure?
12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex


QB: J. Allen, J. Goff, D. Haskins

RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CE,H, Ty Johnson, B. Love, D. Guice, R. Calais, D. Washington

WR: A.J. Brown, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Schuster, A. Cooper, R. Woods, D. Slayton, P. Williams, H. Ruggs, D. Mims, T. Smith, KJ Hamler

TE: G. Kittle, H. Henry

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Never Veto » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:48 am

Yarnith wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:14 am
Never Veto wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:16 pm
vbbish wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:13 am
I did a similar deal for Gurley in a win now situation.

I like it. Trade for picks after you win the Ship!
Right, I thought the whole point was to win. I think the Falcons are going to use Gurley as a bell cow, and the Falcons offense is way more explosive than the Rams.
I know last year was dismal but isn't this the Rams offense that put up record breaking numbers beating KC on Monday night in a historic shootout? I mean the Falcons may have a more explosive offense but then again maybe Gurley being unable to perform is part of way the Rams fell so hard so fast? I am not saying its true but you have no doubts at all he was a victim of a bad system and not a contributor to its failure?
I think most of it was the Oline and Jared Goff not being able to handle poor Oline play. That is why they switched to 12 personnel midway through the season.
20 Team Superflex (1/2 PPR / 6pt TD's)
11 Starters - QB 1(2), RB 2(4), WR 2(5), TE 2(3)



QB - Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins
RB - Kenyan Drake, JK Dobbins, Tony Pollard, Rashaad Penny
WR - Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Odell Bechkam Jr, Tim Patrick
TE - Jonnu Smith, Zach Ertz, OJ Howard, Foster Moreau
PS - Donavan Peoples-Jones, Chris Warren II, Harrison Bryant

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby pnrsteelers » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:34 am

I would have gone with the picks. I still believe in Gurley but I don't believe his value at this point is at the level of this trade.
Team 12 PPR
Starting Lineup 10 players
QB 1
RB 2-5
WR 3-6
TE 1-4

Team 1
QB P Mahomes D Jones M Trubisky
RB M Sanders S Michel R Jones R Mostart Gio Bernard James Robinson
WR D Hopkins Courtland Sutton D.J Chark A.J Brown, Parris Campbell Allen Lazard C D Lamb
M Pittman Gabriel Davis
TE Zach Ertz, Noah Fant

Team 2
QB C Wentz J Goff T Bridgewater J Herbert
RB A Kamara T Gurley S Michel K Vaugh D Evens
WR DK Metcalf A Robinson S shepard l Gallup J Laundry J Crowder J Reynolds
TE G Kittle I Thomas C Herndon

Team 3
QB Bridgewater, D. Lock
RB D. Montgomery, M. Mack, C. Akers A. McFarland
WR C. Godwin, D. Hopkins, C. Claypool, C. Sutton J. Washington
TE Noah Fant, OJ Howard

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Re: Gurley Trade

Postby Yarnith » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:22 am

Never Veto wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:48 am
Yarnith wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:14 am
Never Veto wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:16 pm


Right, I thought the whole point was to win. I think the Falcons are going to use Gurley as a bell cow, and the Falcons offense is way more explosive than the Rams.
I know last year was dismal but isn't this the Rams offense that put up record breaking numbers beating KC on Monday night in a historic shootout? I mean the Falcons may have a more explosive offense but then again maybe Gurley being unable to perform is part of way the Rams fell so hard so fast? I am not saying its true but you have no doubts at all he was a victim of a bad system and not a contributor to its failure?
I think most of it was the Oline and Jared Goff not being able to handle poor Oline play. That is why they switched to 12 personnel midway through the season.
Solid logic train, I think its an overpay for him at this stage but that is based on risk assessment. He absolutely could ball out and prove the doubters wrong, heres hoping it works out for OP.
12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex


QB: J. Allen, J. Goff, D. Haskins

RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CE,H, Ty Johnson, B. Love, D. Guice, R. Calais, D. Washington

WR: A.J. Brown, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Schuster, A. Cooper, R. Woods, D. Slayton, P. Williams, H. Ruggs, D. Mims, T. Smith, KJ Hamler

TE: G. Kittle, H. Henry

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