Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

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Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby Ron_Y » Fri May 29, 2020 4:18 pm

In a mandatory start 2QB league, (team 1 below) would you make this overpay for 1.01 to get burrow

1.01
Mostert

For

1.04
Boyd
Carr
2022 2nd
League 1: 2QB: 8 Years, 3x Champion, 3x Playoffs
QB: Wentz, Carr, Tanny, Flacco
RB: Saquon, Mixon, CEH, J. Robinson, Bell Latavius, J. Wilson
WR: Adams, Godwin, DK, Jefferson, Miller,Harry, Perriman, Conley
TE: Andrews, Higbee, Fells,

League 2: Superflex/IDP: 4 Years, 1x Champion, 1x Runner Up, 2x Playoffs
QB: Dak, Ryan, Wentz, Herbert
RB: Saquon, Cook, Kamara, Carson, Mostert, Dobbins, Gordon, Gaskins, Da. Johnson, White
WR: Adams, Tyreek, Amari, Woods, Hollywood Parker, Humphries, Enunwa, Agholor
TE: Kelce, Kittle Njoku, Doyle, Sternberger
IDP: Too many to list, not enough people care, too many changes

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby abloom » Fri May 29, 2020 4:28 pm

Number of team? I think I pull the trigger on this deal
Dynasty Team #1: 6-5 (7th place)
2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill, Bridgewater
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette,Peterson
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard(IR),Cole
T: Goedert(IR),Henry,Bryant,Dissly
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1,2,4,5,6,7
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Dynasty Team #2: 11-0 (1st place-Clinched 1st round bye)
2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Michel(IR), Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Edwards, AB, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce, Everett
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1,1,4,4,5,6,7
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DLF advice forum league: 2-9 (12th place)
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1,1,1,2,3,4,4,4

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby Gator Sens » Fri May 29, 2020 4:37 pm

1.01 side for me.

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby never_punts » Fri May 29, 2020 4:38 pm

That's not a bad price at all imo
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
What's that Bear Doing? (10-1)
QB: Wilson - Murray - Tannehill
RB: Chubb - Monty - Harris - Duke - Hines - Gio - Freeman - Cohen
WR: Ridley - Woods - Chark - AJB - DJM - FulGHOAT- Hardman - Sutton - Patrick - Campbell - Perriman - Mooney
TE: Kelce - Goedert - Jonnu - Kittle :(
DL: Graham | LB: White | DB: Poyer
2021: late 4th
2022: 1st x2, 2nd, 3rd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Fresh Prince of Helaire (9-2)
QB: Murray - Allen - Wentz - Winston - Dalton
RB: Cook - Mattison - Mack - Benjamin - Dallas - Duke J
WR: Chark - Tyreek - Lockett - Parker - Kirk - Hardman - Sutton - Mims - Edwards - Washington - Sims - DPJ - Davis
TE: Fant - Bryant
Picks: Own all mine

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby SoShady » Fri May 29, 2020 5:28 pm

I wouldn't call that a overpay at all. More like highway robbery.

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby HughHoney » Fri May 29, 2020 5:37 pm

Agree with others. Not an overpay but great price to get Burrow with the 1.01.
12 Team, 24-man Roster, 4-man TS, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 DEF

QB: Wilson, Minshew, Brissett
RB: Kamara, CEH, Gordon, Hines, Samuels, Gio, Love, C Edmonds
WR: OBJ, Kupp, Deebo Samuel, Reagor, Mike Williams, Mims, Watkins, Diontae Johnson, Devernay, Boykin, K Harmon, Pettis, Coutee, J Meyers, Peoples-Jones
TE: Kittle, Hurst
DEF: CAR
2021 picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby punintended » Fri May 29, 2020 7:28 pm

I have 1.01 in one of my leagues...

ZERO chance I would take Boyd, Carr and 1.4 for 1.1. That’s instant accept .

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby mmass » Fri May 29, 2020 7:48 pm

Who is over paying here? 1.01 by a large margin... you better snap that up.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby Alex116 » Sat May 30, 2020 12:16 am

Overpay??? Huh? Take that deal if it's actually there? I get the feeling you're asking if that offer would be enough? If so, that's an astounding NO!

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Sat May 30, 2020 3:51 am

Snap accept. This is Burrow/Mostert and not close.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 7-4, 3rd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Drake, Carson, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Snell, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw, Alexander
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller

2021 - 1st, 1st, 2nd
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 8-3, 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Justin Jackson, Booker, Lewis, Dallas, Snell Jr, Royce Freeman
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby Mtt33 » Sat May 30, 2020 5:19 am

Surprised this is so overwhelming in favor of 1.01 saying it’s ripoff. I think it’s pretty even but I’m a Carr believer. Assuming 12 teams Boyd and Carr are both worth late 1sts I’d think in the format. Taylor + 2 late 1st values is a strong package in my opinion. Mostert probabaly worth more than a 2022 2 but not enough for me to sway the deal much.

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Sat May 30, 2020 5:37 am

Mtt33 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:19 am
Surprised this is so overwhelming in favor of 1.01 saying it’s ripoff. I think it’s pretty even but I’m a Carr believer. Assuming 12 teams Boyd and Carr are both worth late 1sts I’d think in the format. Taylor + 2 late 1st values is a strong package in my opinion. Mostert probabaly worth more than a 2022 2 but not enough for me to sway the deal much.
There’s more to trading than just pure value.......
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 7-4, 3rd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Drake, Carson, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Snell, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw, Alexander
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller

2021 - 1st, 1st, 2nd
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 8-3, 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Justin Jackson, Booker, Lewis, Dallas, Snell Jr, Royce Freeman
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby Mtt33 » Sat May 30, 2020 5:55 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:37 am
Mtt33 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:19 am
Surprised this is so overwhelming in favor of 1.01 saying it’s ripoff. I think it’s pretty even but I’m a Carr believer. Assuming 12 teams Boyd and Carr are both worth late 1sts I’d think in the format. Taylor + 2 late 1st values is a strong package in my opinion. Mostert probabaly worth more than a 2022 2 but not enough for me to sway the deal much.
There’s more to trading than just pure value.......
Huh?
You: this is not close
Me: I actually think this is pretty even
You: there’s more to trading than just value.

You’ve lost me. I’m not saying anyone’s wrong, simply providing another view that I think this is an even deal, not sure what you mean by more to trading than value. Generally that argument is use to say ‘people forget to try to win and take the better value’. I could argue 1.04 and the rb you get there is more of a win sooner move in this case so what do you mean by more than value in this case?

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Sat May 30, 2020 6:22 am

Mtt33 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:55 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:37 am
Mtt33 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:19 am
Surprised this is so overwhelming in favor of 1.01 saying it’s ripoff. I think it’s pretty even but I’m a Carr believer. Assuming 12 teams Boyd and Carr are both worth late 1sts I’d think in the format. Taylor + 2 late 1st values is a strong package in my opinion. Mostert probabaly worth more than a 2022 2 but not enough for me to sway the deal much.
There’s more to trading than just pure value.......
Huh?
You: this is not close
Me: I actually think this is pretty even
You: there’s more to trading than just value.

You’ve lost me. I’m not saying anyone’s wrong, simply providing another view that I think this is an even deal, not sure what you mean by more to trading than value. Generally that argument is use to say ‘people forget to try to win and take the better value’. I could argue 1.04 and the rb you get there is more of a win sooner move in this case so what do you mean by more than value in this case?
You said that you’re surprised this is so overwhelming in favor of the 1.01 side. In a 2QB league, and based off of his current roster, the 1.01 side clearly makes his team better.

Taylor wouldn’t start for him.

So in this deal, he would be upgrading his starting roster from Carr to Burrow... in a 2QB league.... not close.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 7-4, 3rd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Drake, Carson, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Snell, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw, Alexander
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller

2021 - 1st, 1st, 2nd
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 8-3, 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Justin Jackson, Booker, Lewis, Dallas, Snell Jr, Royce Freeman
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Too much of an overpay for 1.01?

Postby Mtt33 » Sat May 30, 2020 6:45 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 6:22 am
Mtt33 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:55 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 5:37 am


There’s more to trading than just pure value.......
Huh?
You: this is not close
Me: I actually think this is pretty even
You: there’s more to trading than just value.

You’ve lost me. I’m not saying anyone’s wrong, simply providing another view that I think this is an even deal, not sure what you mean by more to trading than value. Generally that argument is use to say ‘people forget to try to win and take the better value’. I could argue 1.04 and the rb you get there is more of a win sooner move in this case so what do you mean by more than value in this case?
You said that you’re surprised this is so overwhelming in favor of the 1.01 side. In a 2QB league, and based off of his current roster, the 1.01 side clearly makes his team better.

Taylor wouldn’t start for him.

So in this deal, he would be upgrading his starting roster from Carr to Burrow... in a 2QB league.... not close.
So Taylor won’t start over bell (fair argument) but burrow is right away an upgrade over Carr Tannehill from the jump? Taylor is a massive Dynasty upgrade over bell like burrow is a massive upgrade over Tannehill and Carr in Dynasty.

Again I think it’s an evenish trade, my surprise is people are saying it’s not close, not that they are taking 1.01.


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