Lamb vs. Godwin

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Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby vbbish » Fri May 29, 2020 8:52 am

Hey guys,

Owner has asked about Godwin, I got him on the cheap last year prior to his breakout. But am also in my championship window with a 2nd place finish last year. He is also my top competition year in year out.

Wondering about...

I give: Godwin & Gordon
I get: Mixon & Lamb

Thoughts? Does this help me? He also has Cooper and K. Allen?
8th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league
QB: L. Jackson, Brees
RB: Gurley, M. Gordon, R. Penny, M. Ingram, T. Cohen, D. Montgomery, JT, Dillon
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, AJG, Boyd, Diggs, J. Brown
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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby Gator Sens » Fri May 29, 2020 9:11 am

Godwin side. I'm very high on Lamb, but definitely would want to see how he comes out in his rookie year.

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri May 29, 2020 9:23 am

Godwin side easily. I don't know if I'd sell Godwin alone for Mixon/Lamb, I would not add Gordon. Godwin is the best piece in this deal.
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10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None

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2020: 4th
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RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 29, 2020 9:23 am

Godwin side

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby vbbish » Fri May 29, 2020 9:25 am

Cheers!
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QB: L. Jackson, Brees
RB: Gurley, M. Gordon, R. Penny, M. Ingram, T. Cohen, D. Montgomery, JT, Dillon
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, AJG, Boyd, Diggs, J. Brown
TE: Ertz, E. Engram, Kmet
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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Fri May 29, 2020 10:08 am

I would deal Godwin alone for Lamb + Mixon (well maybe).

Godwin side easy here.
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Cam, Dak, Tannehill, J.Love, Brissett
RB - M.Ingram, Swift, Kerryon, J.Robinson, Freeman, D.Henderson, McKinnon, Hyde, Cohen
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Pettis, Miller, JJAW, G.Davis
TE - Gesicki, Hockenson
2021 - my 1 - 2

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2021 4 and 5


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, Bridgewater,
RB: Mixon, Swift, K.Johnson, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Hollister

2021: All picks

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby Never Veto » Fri May 29, 2020 10:22 am

Easily Godwin side. In most leagues he was the #2 WR, and he's only 24. You could basically coin flip who will have a better next two years out of Mixon and Gordon.
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RB - Kenyan Drake, JK Dobbins, Tony Pollard, Rashaad Penny
WR - Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Odell Bechkam Jr, Tim Patrick
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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby mmass » Fri May 29, 2020 10:43 am

Love all these players so this is a str8 toss up for me....
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby Ioverpayforrookies » Fri May 29, 2020 11:03 am

Crazy how many people are saying Godwin side, the Lamb/Mixon side actually has more value on the trade analyzer. I see the arguments for both but I'll play devil's advocate since everyone is saying Godwin side. We don't know what's going to happen with Gordon, he could be completely fading and be jumping from team to team. Lamb/Mixon gives you much more security. Especially since we don't know how long Brady will be with Godwin.
Team 1:
10 team, .5 ppr, 30 man roster - 2 QB, 3 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 1 W/R Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins,Winston, Foles, Finley
WR: Julio, Hilton, Edelman Woods, Landry, M. Williams, A. Robinson, Harmon, Meyers, Butler
RB: Gurley, D. Cook, Mack Lindsay, Mixon, Hines, Jon. Williams
TE: Hooper, Everett, Eifert, Irv, I. Thomas

Team 2:
10 team, .5 ppr, 45 man roster, 1QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE 1 W/R/T flex, 1 SF, 1 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 2 CB, 2 S, 1 DEF Flex
QB:Brady, Darnold Goff, Foles, Finley
WR: Godwin, Edelman, Kirk, Hilton, Landry, J. Brown A. Miller, MVS, Cobb, AB, Harmon
RB:Gurley, D. Freeman, A. Jones Sanders, Jon. Williams, L. Miller, Ajayi, K. Hunt
TE:Waller, Rudolph Graham, Fells
DT:Phillips
DE:Campbell, R. Quinnp
LB:Leonard, Deion Jones, Barrett, R. Evans/b]
CB:L. Ryan, Jenkins
S:D. James, Simmonsr

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri May 29, 2020 11:10 am

Ioverpayforrookies wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 11:03 am
Crazy how many people are saying Godwin side, the Lamb/Mixon side actually has more value on the trade analyzer. I see the arguments for both but I'll play devil's advocate since everyone is saying Godwin side. We don't know what's going to happen with Gordon, he could be completely fading and be jumping from team to team. Lamb/Mixon gives you much more security. Especially since we don't know how long Brady will be with Godwin.
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2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None

Team Two:
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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby Oddball456 » Fri May 29, 2020 12:25 pm

Ioverpayforrookies wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 11:03 am
Crazy how many people are saying Godwin side, the Lamb/Mixon side actually has more value on the trade analyzer. I see the arguments for both but I'll play devil's advocate since everyone is saying Godwin side. We don't know what's going to happen with Gordon, he could be completely fading and be jumping from team to team. Lamb/Mixon gives you much more security. Especially since we don't know how long Brady will be with Godwin.
I think Godwin last year will likely be his peak. Brady isn't Winston for fantasy, the Bucs are not going to throw like they did last year, and if Gronk stays healthy (I know..) he will suck up some of the pass attempts. Mixon has a higher startup ADP than Godwin but it is basically a wash between the 2.

So would you rather have Lamb or Gordon? Would any of us be surprised if Lindsey out touches Gordon this year?

The OP has his 2 main RB, in a start 2, as Gurley and Gordon. The upgrade from Gordon to Mixon is better than downgrade of Diggs or AJG (with Lamb likely not in your line-up in 2020) from Godwin.

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri May 29, 2020 12:36 pm

Melvin Gordon is absolutely trash and near worthless to me, so this one is actually a near coin flip (for me).

With that said the best piece is still Godwin so I lean that way, but no qualms whatsoever with taking the side with 2 good players rather than 1
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

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IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby Never Veto » Fri May 29, 2020 12:47 pm

StripesOfKC wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 12:36 pm
Melvin Gordon is absolutely trash and near worthless to me, so this one is actually a near coin flip (for me).

With that said the best piece is still Godwin so I lean that way, but no qualms whatsoever with taking the side with 2 good players rather than 1
Gordon was the #10 RB from week 8 on. For the amount of money the Broncos are paying him, he is the starter. If he shows well this year he will more than likely be extended for another 1 or 2. So he has about a 2-3 year window. That's all you can hope to get out of a RB these days.

Also Mixon only scored 34 more points than Gordon, yet he played 4 more games and had a training camp.
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QB - Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins
RB - Kenyan Drake, JK Dobbins, Tony Pollard, Rashaad Penny
WR - Adam Thielen, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay, Odell Bechkam Jr, Tim Patrick
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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri May 29, 2020 1:01 pm

Never Veto wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 12:47 pm
StripesOfKC wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 12:36 pm
Melvin Gordon is absolutely trash and near worthless to me, so this one is actually a near coin flip (for me).

With that said the best piece is still Godwin so I lean that way, but no qualms whatsoever with taking the side with 2 good players rather than 1
Gordon was the #10 RB from week 8 on. For the amount of money the Broncos are paying him, he is the starter. If he shows well this year he will more than likely be extended for another 1 or 2. So he has about a 2-3 year window. That's all you can hope to get out of a RB these days.

Also Mixon only scored 34 more points than Gordon, yet he played 4 more games and had a training camp.
I have said this before so I do want to specify what I mean.

He is trash in real life--regardless of what his fantasy stats last year looked like.

3.8 YPC with fumbling problems

Broncos are trying to win and make the playoffs this year. If Gordon gets outperformed by the quicker, less-fumbly, more efficient, better receiver Lindsay, then he will lose playing time, especially in high leverage situations where a fumble would be super costly (goal line).

I expect that to happen because fantasy production catches up with how good a player is in real life eventually.

And Mixon was a disaster to start the year last year, but now he gets a QB known to throw to backs and a blue chip prospect left tackle back with a coaching staff that discovered the benefits of feeding him late last year.
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Lamb vs. Godwin

Postby punintended » Fri May 29, 2020 1:09 pm

Mixon side for me....

Workhorse 3 down backs are so rare and I he has done it 3 straight seasons with ZERO help.


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