Keep Howard or Goedert?

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Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby Oblong_Ball » Wed May 27, 2020 9:43 am

Serious question, Team #2 in my signature. I drafted OJ Howard when he came into the league as my backup to Kelce. I've only ever started Howard on Kelce's bye weeks and he's never produced (and lost me weeks). Now Tampa has TB12 throwing to Gronk, Evans, Godwin, Brate, and his plethora of RB's. Not to mention Bruce Arians is their coach and he hates throwing to his TE's anyway.

Am I crazy to cut bait on OJ Howard and keep what looks like the better player in Dallas Goedert moving forward?

I've tried trading Howard but he has almost no value in my leagues with limited keepers. Thoughts?
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby nicktahoes » Wed May 27, 2020 9:51 am

I would. I think you can get a second for Howard. I was able to get 2.03 for him.
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PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex x2
QBs: Lawrence, Stafford, Geno, Hooker, Rush
RBs: Ekeler, Kamara, Achane, Elijah Mitchell, Dillon, Kelley, Moss, Jamaal Williams
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TEs: Kelce, Hockenson, Taysom, Irv Smith

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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby Paul717 » Wed May 27, 2020 9:53 am

Oblong_Ball wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:43 am Serious question, Team #2 in my signature. I drafted OJ Howard when he came into the league as my backup to Kelce. I've only ever started Howard on Kelce's bye weeks and he's never produced (and lost me weeks). Now Tampa has TB12 throwing to Gronk, Evans, Godwin, Brate, and his plethora of RB's. Not to mention Bruce Arians is their coach and he hates throwing to his TE's anyway.

Am I crazy to cut bait on OJ Howard and keep what looks like the better player in Dallas Goedert moving forward?

I've tried trading Howard but he has almost no value to anyone but the biggest fans. Thoughts?
Not crazy, but what might a trade for Howard look like in your league? Even if you can only get 75 cents on the dollar, you'd feel less guilty than if you simply dropped him.
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QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby Oblong_Ball » Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 am

nicktahoes wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:51 am I would. I think you can get a second for Howard. I was able to get 2.03 for him.
Paul717 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:53 am Not crazy, but what might a trade for Howard look like in your league? Even if you can only get 75 cents on the dollar, you'd feel less guilty than if you simply dropped him.
Forgot to mention this league does not allow offseason trades or trading of picks, so I either have to keep Howard or Goedert. Can't even trade them on draft day or anything. It's an odd setup for sure.
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby moishetreats » Wed May 27, 2020 10:00 am

Goedert easily for me.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th


12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby mzkp54 » Wed May 27, 2020 10:03 am

Definitely Goedert over Howard
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QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby Goddard » Wed May 27, 2020 10:07 am

I guess if you can't trade one and have to cut one, Howard would be the cut.
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby mmass » Wed May 27, 2020 10:14 am

Oblong_Ball wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 am
nicktahoes wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:51 am I would. I think you can get a second for Howard. I was able to get 2.03 for him.
Paul717 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:53 am Not crazy, but what might a trade for Howard look like in your league? Even if you can only get 75 cents on the dollar, you'd feel less guilty than if you simply dropped him.
Forgot to mention this league does not allow offseason trades or trading of picks, so I either have to keep Howard or Goedert. Can't even trade them on draft day or anything. It's an odd setup for sure.
A. Find a new league - Ridiculous Rules.
B. Drop Howard before Goedert
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee

SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
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Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby never_punts » Wed May 27, 2020 10:24 am

mmass wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 10:14 am
Oblong_Ball wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 am
nicktahoes wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:51 am I would. I think you can get a second for Howard. I was able to get 2.03 for him.
Paul717 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:53 am Not crazy, but what might a trade for Howard look like in your league? Even if you can only get 75 cents on the dollar, you'd feel less guilty than if you simply dropped him.
Forgot to mention this league does not allow offseason trades or trading of picks, so I either have to keep Howard or Goedert. Can't even trade them on draft day or anything. It's an odd setup for sure.
A. Find a new league - Ridiculous Rules.
B. Drop Howard before Goedert
This
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby jwb32 » Wed May 27, 2020 10:42 am

mmass wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 10:14 am
Oblong_Ball wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 am
nicktahoes wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:51 am I would. I think you can get a second for Howard. I was able to get 2.03 for him.
Paul717 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:53 am Not crazy, but what might a trade for Howard look like in your league? Even if you can only get 75 cents on the dollar, you'd feel less guilty than if you simply dropped him.
Forgot to mention this league does not allow offseason trades or trading of picks, so I either have to keep Howard or Goedert. Can't even trade them on draft day or anything. It's an odd setup for sure.
A. Find a new league - Ridiculous Rules.
B. Drop Howard before Goedert
Agree strongly with both points!
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed May 27, 2020 10:45 am

Goedert for me.
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 am

Oblong_Ball wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 am
nicktahoes wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:51 am I would. I think you can get a second for Howard. I was able to get 2.03 for him.
Paul717 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:53 am Not crazy, but what might a trade for Howard look like in your league? Even if you can only get 75 cents on the dollar, you'd feel less guilty than if you simply dropped him.
Forgot to mention this league does not allow offseason trades or trading of picks, so I either have to keep Howard or Goedert. Can't even trade them on draft day or anything. It's an odd setup for sure.
Lol. Wut?

Goedert >> Howard

Cut Howard if you have to choose one of them.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
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QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby dark_knite03 » Wed May 27, 2020 10:50 am

Piling it on for Goedert.... How much trading does the league have not allowing picks to be traded?
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
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JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
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Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
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Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
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Andrews, Goedert, Juwan, Woods
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby Zech13 » Wed May 27, 2020 12:11 pm

By now you know lol
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Re: Keep Howard or Goedert?

Postby Oblong_Ball » Wed May 27, 2020 12:38 pm

Thanks all. I agree and get it haha!
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