Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

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Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby Hankybro21 » Fri May 22, 2020 7:03 am

This is a two part question. Woke up to this for Team 2.

Give: Gronk
Get: 2021 2 (late) + 2020 pick #24

I think the value is probably good, especially since I have several TEs. The caveat is that for 2020 I need to drop the number of players that I have picks. As of now, I need to clear out one more roster spot this year and then I'm no longer in a roster crunch. This trade would not clear out a roster spot since I'd be moving a player and getting back a 2020 a pick. If I can't clear out one more roster spot before the year begins, Parris Campbell would likely get cut, which I'm trying to avoid.

So, part 2...in addition to "do I make this trade", where do people Parris in this class in SF? Worst comes to worst I can maybe draft him again at 24 but risk losing him. Thoughts?
Team 1 (champs '18, ‘19, ’20)
10 TM PPR; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*2, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar, Josh Allen, Goff
WR: Nuk, MT, Adams, Godwin, DJM, Reagor, Mooney, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Preston, Anthony Miller, Bowden
RB: Barkley, Swift, Mixon, Rojo, MG III, Cohen, Mack, Kelley, Mattison, Boston, KJ, Wilson
TE: Kelce, Hunter
K: Sanders
Def: Miami, Arizona
IR:

Team 2 (7-6, 4th place)
10 TM PPR SF; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Defense*1, IDP*3

QB: Russell, Watson, Burrow
WR: MT, Nuk, Godwin, DK, DJM, Parris, Kirk, AB, Preston, Lamb, Mooney, Gabriel Davis
RB: Jacobs, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins
TE: Goedert, HH, Hock
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt; KC
IDP: Donald, Humphrey, Adams
2021: 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.03, 2.04

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri May 22, 2020 7:15 am

Why would Campbell be the cut? I'd easily cut Hollister.... I'd also easily cut Darwin.... and Butler..... and Isabella.... and is that Antonio Brown I see there? Is this up to date?
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None

Team Two:
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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby RB6 » Fri May 22, 2020 7:15 am

I'd make the trade and drop Hollister. SEA signed Olsen, is getting Dissly back and drafted two rookie TEs.

Edit: Didn't see AB. Drop him.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/2F
LJax, Lock, Burrow, Ben, Eason, Rosen
Adams, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, MWill, Shepard, Parris, Sims, Hamler, Fulgham, Duvernay, Van, Guyton, Boykin
Zeke, Ingram, Mostert, Hunt, Pollard, Hines, Adams
Andrews, Knox, Rodgers

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, ARod, Foles, Mullens, Mariota, Eason
Henry, Robinson, Hines, Mack, Duke, Ito, Breida, D. Freeman, Royce
Hill, DK, KA, Kupp, Crowder, Slayton, Edelman, Collin, Dede
Andrews, Schultz

PPR TE1.5 Return YDS 1Q/3W/2R/1SF/3F
Allen, Baker, Cam
MT, Ridley, Lockett, Landry, Parker, Miller, Shepard, Sims, Zaccheaus, Quez
MG, Singletary, Gibson, Cohen, Breida, Wilkins, Royce
Andrews, Henry, Knox, Olsen, Warring
Taxi: Morgan, Reed, Darwin, Pierce

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby Hankybro21 » Fri May 22, 2020 7:24 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:15 am
Why would Campbell be the cut? I'd easily cut Hollister.... I'd also easily cut Darwin.... and Butler..... and Isabella.... and is that Antonio Brown I see there? Is this up to date?
Yea it's up to date. I have 29 on my roster so I need to cut to 28 and then drop 7 more for my 7 picks. So I need 8 drops to get down to 21 players, then draft 7 to get back to our 28 size limit. Current drops:
1. Grier
2. Rosen
3. Isabella
4. Butler
5. Darwin
6. Hollister
7. AB
8. ??
Team 1 (champs '18, ‘19, ’20)
10 TM PPR; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*2, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar, Josh Allen, Goff
WR: Nuk, MT, Adams, Godwin, DJM, Reagor, Mooney, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Preston, Anthony Miller, Bowden
RB: Barkley, Swift, Mixon, Rojo, MG III, Cohen, Mack, Kelley, Mattison, Boston, KJ, Wilson
TE: Kelce, Hunter
K: Sanders
Def: Miami, Arizona
IR:

Team 2 (7-6, 4th place)
10 TM PPR SF; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Defense*1, IDP*3

QB: Russell, Watson, Burrow
WR: MT, Nuk, Godwin, DK, DJM, Parris, Kirk, AB, Preston, Lamb, Mooney, Gabriel Davis
RB: Jacobs, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins
TE: Goedert, HH, Hock
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt; KC
IDP: Donald, Humphrey, Adams
2021: 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.03, 2.04

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am

Hankybro21 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:24 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:15 am
Why would Campbell be the cut? I'd easily cut Hollister.... I'd also easily cut Darwin.... and Butler..... and Isabella.... and is that Antonio Brown I see there? Is this up to date?
Yea it's up to date. I have 29 on my roster so I need to cut to 28 and then drop 7 more for my 7 picks. So I need 8 drops to get down to 21 players, then draft 7 to get back to our 28 size limit. Current drops:
1. Grier
2. Rosen
3. Isabella
4. Butler
5. Darwin
6. Hollister
7. AB
8. ??
You don't need seven picks with that small of a roster. Have you tried consolidating a couple of them? Maybe trade two or three to move up?
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby Hankybro21 » Fri May 22, 2020 7:33 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am
Hankybro21 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:24 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:15 am
Why would Campbell be the cut? I'd easily cut Hollister.... I'd also easily cut Darwin.... and Butler..... and Isabella.... and is that Antonio Brown I see there? Is this up to date?
Yea it's up to date. I have 29 on my roster so I need to cut to 28 and then drop 7 more for my 7 picks. So I need 8 drops to get down to 21 players, then draft 7 to get back to our 28 size limit. Current drops:
1. Grier
2. Rosen
3. Isabella
4. Butler
5. Darwin
6. Hollister
7. AB
8. ??
You don't need seven picks with that small of a roster. Have you tried consolidating a couple of them? Maybe trade two or three to move up?
Yea I have. The other piece is that my picks are all in the first. 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08. 1.10. I've tried to move to 1.04 and 1.05 but they don't want to move back.
Team 1 (champs '18, ‘19, ’20)
10 TM PPR; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*2, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar, Josh Allen, Goff
WR: Nuk, MT, Adams, Godwin, DJM, Reagor, Mooney, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Preston, Anthony Miller, Bowden
RB: Barkley, Swift, Mixon, Rojo, MG III, Cohen, Mack, Kelley, Mattison, Boston, KJ, Wilson
TE: Kelce, Hunter
K: Sanders
Def: Miami, Arizona
IR:

Team 2 (7-6, 4th place)
10 TM PPR SF; QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Defense*1, IDP*3

QB: Russell, Watson, Burrow
WR: MT, Nuk, Godwin, DK, DJM, Parris, Kirk, AB, Preston, Lamb, Mooney, Gabriel Davis
RB: Jacobs, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins
TE: Goedert, HH, Hock
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt; KC
IDP: Donald, Humphrey, Adams
2021: 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.03, 2.04

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri May 22, 2020 7:36 am

Hankybro21 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:33 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am
Hankybro21 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:24 am


Yea it's up to date. I have 29 on my roster so I need to cut to 28 and then drop 7 more for my 7 picks. So I need 8 drops to get down to 21 players, then draft 7 to get back to our 28 size limit. Current drops:
1. Grier
2. Rosen
3. Isabella
4. Butler
5. Darwin
6. Hollister
7. AB
8. ??
You don't need seven picks with that small of a roster. Have you tried consolidating a couple of them? Maybe trade two or three to move up?
Yea I have. The other piece is that my picks are all in the first. 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08. 1.10. I've tried to move to 1.04 and 1.05 but they don't want to move back.
I'd use them to upgrade at positions then. TE stands out to me. I'd package players/picks for Kittle or Andrews, with your team looking like it's competitive, I'd even go after someone like Kelce if you can't get Kittle or Andrews.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson

2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby Gator Sens » Fri May 22, 2020 7:41 am

I would make the Gronk deal. That's really solid value.

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby elvisn » Fri May 22, 2020 8:07 am

Try to trade some of your picks and/or Campbell for future picks. Or use a pick and player to upgrade as other people have said.
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Minshew, Hurts.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Ronald Jones, AJ Dillon, Justin Jackson, Bryce Love, Latavius Murray.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Julian Edelman, Breshad Perriman, Bryan Edwards.
TE: Evan Engram, Dallas Goedert, Adam Trautman.

Picks:
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 3rd.
2023: 1st ,2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 4Flex

QB: LJax, Goff, Minshew, Hurts, Rosen.
RB: Chubb, Cook, Dobbins, Hunt, Michel, DFreeman, J Jackson, Boone, J Hill, Love, Scott.
WR: DK, JuJu, Diontae J, Cooks, Crowder, Campbell, Edwards, A Miller, Sims, AB, Laviska, S Miller.
TE: Higbee, OJ Howard, Cook, Gesicki.

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby dblj1199 » Fri May 22, 2020 8:45 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 7:15 am
Why would Campbell be the cut? I'd easily cut Hollister.... I'd also easily cut Darwin.... and Butler..... and Isabella.... and is that Antonio Brown I see there? Is this up to date?
Grier, Rosen, several players to cut. I'd make the deal.
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Qb- Mahomes, Baker, Darnold,
RB- Zeke, Mostert, Hunt, J Robinson, K Johnson, Snell Jr, Pollard, Ingram
WR- OBJ (i.r.), A Cooper, DJ Moore, TY Hilton, D Parker, J Jefferson, AJ Greene, AB, Q Cephus, DP-Jones
TE- Waller, H Henry, Gronk, OJ Howard (i.r.), Albert O (i.r.)
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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby Ruggenater » Fri May 22, 2020 8:50 am

Do you have to carry a kicker? I know Justin Tucker is considered a “high end” starter, but Parris Campbell is more valuable than any drop off you’ll see at kicker.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Rodgers, Tannehill, Love, Dalton, Haskins
RB: Dobbins, Montgomery, Michel, Dillon, Mattison, Bernard
WR: Hopkins, Evans, A Robinson, Lockett, Reagor, McLaurin, Higgins, Watkins, Perriman, Meyers, Coutee
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, J Smith, I Smith

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby Madcity_matt » Fri May 22, 2020 9:05 am

for sure take the deal, its too good to pass up. I agree on trying to make a move for top end players using multiple draft picks as well.
29 Keepers Megaflex (est 2009) 2019 Runner-up
QB (1-3) Wilson, Brady, Darnold, Tannehill, Smith
RB (2-6) Zeke, Cook, Carson, Gordon, Dobbins, Coleman, Henderson, Scott,
WR (3-7) Hopkins, Hill, Juju, Chark, Gage, Pittman Jr, Higgins, Miller, Gordon, P Williams
TE (2-6) Waller, Smith, Brate, Doyle, Schultz

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QB (1) Jackson, Carr, Hurts
WR (3-4) Hopkins, Adams, Diggs, Golladay, D Johnson, J Brown, Higgins
Rb (2) Chubb, Carson, Hunt, Moss, Dillon, Edwards, Peterson, Penney(IR)
TE (1-2) Waller, Engram, Graham, Everett, Howard(IR)

EMT Superflex (12 team PPR) 2019 Champs
QB (1-2) Wilson,Tua, Darnold,Love, Burrow (IR)
WR (3-5) Adams. Godwin, Ridley, Kupp, Golladay, Edwards, V Jefferson, Davis, J Gordon
RB (2-4) Cook, Chubb, Mattison, Lewis, B Love, Gallman, Barkley(IR)
TE (1-3) Kittle, Fant, Sternberger, Herndon

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby Bennyblanco22 » Fri May 22, 2020 9:34 am

I'd take the trade, it's pretty good value. I'd also be looking to trade for future picks to set you up as a true dynasty.
10Team .5ppr 1Q/2RB/3WR/TE/3FL/D
QB- Watson, Minshew
RB- CMC, Carson, Lindsay, Hines, Penny, Brian Hill
WR-Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Kupp, Reagor, Higgins, Hollywood, Pittman, Samuel, Van Jefferson, Duvernay
TE- Fant, Jonnu, Gesicki, Ian Thomas
D- SF, Mia
2021- 1st X2, 2nd, 3rdX2

10tm ppr SF, 2ppr TE Prem
Qb/3rb/4wr/1te/3flex/1sf
QB- Jackson, Dak, Stafford, Dalton, Trubisky, Fitzpatrick
RB-Jonathan Taylor, Hunt, Gibson, Gaskin, Singletary, Mack, Gallman, Snell, Kelley, Scarbrough
WR-Aj Brown, McLaurin, Chark, Diontae, Reagor, Mims, Claypool, Cobb, Bisi, Gage, Snead, Coutee, Bourne, Proche
TE- Goedert, Jonnu, Sternberger, Trautman

12Tm .5PPR SF TE-pre
QB/2Rb/3Wr/Te/2Flex/SF/D
QB-Burrow,Minshew,Trubisky,Rivers,Foles,Walker
RB-Cmc,CEH,JRobinson,Dillon,Snell jr,Scott,MDavis
WR-Robinson, Diontae, Jefferson, Pittman,Gallup,Sims, Berrios,Cephus,Hurd,
TE-Gesicki,LThomas,Sternberger, Trautman,Keene,Izzo,Deguara

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Re: Gronk trade in SF -- with a caveat

Postby ravn88 » Fri May 22, 2020 10:28 am

elvisn wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:07 am
Try to trade some of your picks and/or Campbell for future picks. Or use a pick and player to upgrade as other people have said.
Do this. Trade for next years.

You can also sell a 1st, for future 1sts and a 2nd Maybe and sell the 2nd once you are on the clock
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: Wentz Watson J. Allen & Lock
RB: Barkley Zeke K. Hunt McCoy Penny D. Williams & Ito
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow & Zay
TE: Engram OJ Howard Waller & Everett
DEF: Pats Jags & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon


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