L. Jackson Value (1QB)

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L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby hoos89 » Mon May 18, 2020 9:48 pm

I think I'm about ready to compete this season (team 2 in sig), and my weakest position is probably QB. The Lamar Jackson owner is in a total rebuild so may want to flip him. Not quite sure where to start with him...

Would 2 firsts + Tua be in the ballpark for an opening bid or should I start higher? Or would you recommend targeting someone cheaper?
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon May 18, 2020 11:15 pm

I would try a 1st + Tua to start. It's a fair offer to see where the rebuilding owners value is.

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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby grooner » Tue May 19, 2020 5:30 am

I wouldn't pay Tua + 2 firsts for Jackson, you are buying jackson at his highest possible price. Just like buying Mahomes after his 2018 year.

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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby Edgy68 » Tue May 19, 2020 11:14 am

Based on your roster, this may not be the year to make that push. You have quite a few good young players, but very few I would consider at the top of their position rankings. Let your players mature another year and see what those picks bring next offseason through rookie or trade. I’d be willing to bet you’ll be happier with your collection of talent and be able to make more informed decisions about what trades to make.
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WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby hoos89 » Tue May 19, 2020 11:44 am

I know I lack a top tier guy and my team is likely going to be better next year than this year, but there aren't any behemoths in this league and my roster is probably top 4 for 2020 as-is, not even counting all of the 2021 draft capital.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby FantasyFoosball » Tue May 19, 2020 12:11 pm

I think you are fine with Wentz. I also don't think that team competes this year. You have some good young players, but I think you are still a year away from contending. I wouldn't be selling multiple assets to upgrade at QB unless you think Jackson puts you over the top, which I don't think he does. I'd at least wait until the season to see if you are contending or not, and then decide if you want to pay the price for him.
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2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

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RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
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RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby bjd5211 » Tue May 19, 2020 12:16 pm

I wouldn't do it, your RBs are very questionable with CEH being a rookie and Gurley's knee issues. If you are indeed a competitor, Ryan will do fine at QB for you, and if you aren't then shipping off 2 1st round picks limits your ability to be a contender in the next year or two.

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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby hoos89 » Tue May 19, 2020 12:16 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:16 pm I wouldn't do it, your RBs are very questionable with CEH being a rookie and Gurley's knee issues. If you are indeed a competitor, Ryan will do fine at QB for you, and if you aren't then shipping off 2 1st round picks limits your ability to be a contender in the next year or two.
Other team...I think team 3 is at least 2 years away.
FantasyFoosball wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:11 pm I think you are fine with Wentz. I also don't think that team competes this year. You have some good young players, but I think you are still a year away from contending. I wouldn't be selling multiple assets to upgrade at QB unless you think Jackson puts you over the top, which I don't think he does. I'd at least wait until the season to see if you are contending or not, and then decide if you want to pay the price for him.
This is probably the right move...thanks for the advice. If Jackson scores 28 ppg again he probably actually would put me over the top, but shouldn't be banking on that (or paying a price that assumes that).
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby dblj1199 » Tue May 19, 2020 1:34 pm

Save your picks and roll with Wentz here. If you give up too many picks early and need to bolster your roster before down the stretch you want that fire power.
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WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby LondonMonarchs » Wed May 20, 2020 8:19 am

Try and shift Conner if you are waiting a year. I wouldn't bank on him going into 2021...or second half of 2020 tbh.
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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby JamboMac » Wed May 20, 2020 8:31 am

In a 1 QB league, I'm never ever paying that much for a QB. 2 1sts are huge, and Tua has every chance to be a top 10 QB in a couple of years. Wentz puts up big numbers, and you're not short of bye week fillers. I'm sticking there and grabbing some of the great talent that will be available next year.
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RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

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QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: L. Jackson Value (1QB)

Postby Adam_172 » Wed May 20, 2020 8:39 am

In a SF/2QB then yeah decent offer but in a 1QB league no QB is worth 2x 1sts + another QB.

I think 1 1st + Tua is already the top end of what i'd pay.

Maybe that's just me.

I hold LJax in a SF and if someone offered 2x 1sts and a top rookie QB i'd probably sell, let alone 1QB leagues.
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WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

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WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
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