Juju or DJ Moore

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Juju or DJ Moore

Postby spa12397 » Sat May 09, 2020 4:36 am

Which one would you want?

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby abloom » Sat May 09, 2020 4:37 am

Moore and it's not even close
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Sutton
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby Z$$$ » Sat May 09, 2020 5:08 am

DJM
10 Team PPR: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Allen, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Gibson, Harris, Evans, Perine
WR: Adams, McLaurin, Sutton, Kupp, Crowder, Peoples-Jones
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki, Hurst
2021 Picks: 1.06, 1.09, 2.08

12 Team PPR/IDP: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Taylor, Sanders, Singletary, Perine
WR: Adams, JuJu, DJM, Ridley, Sutton
TE: Kittle, Andrews, Goedert
D: S. Thompson, L. David, D. White, P. Queen
2021 Picks: 1.04, 1.11, 3.11

16 Team .5 PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Cousins, Haskins
RB: Sanders, Singletary, Dallas, Samuels
WR: DJM, Godwin, Jeudy, Hardman, Coutee
TE: Hurst, Albert O, Oliver, Akins
2021 Picks: 1.9, 1.15

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby RB6 » Sat May 09, 2020 6:20 am

Moore. Not close.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/2F
LJax, Burrow, Lock, Ben, Eason, Rosen
Adams, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, MWill, Shepard, Parris, Hamler, Fulgham, Duvernay, Van, Guyton, Boykin
Zeke, Ingram, Mostert, Hunt, Pollard, Hines, Adams
Andrews, Knox, Rodgers

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, ARod, Foles, Mullens, Eason
Henry, Robinson, Hines, Mack, Evans, Duke, Ito, Breida, D. Freeman, Royce
Hill, DK, KA, Kupp, Crowder, Slayton, Washington, Edelman, Collin, Dede
Andrews

PPR TE1.5 1Q/3W/2R/1SF/3F
Allen, Baker, Cam, Mariota, Morgan
Ridley, MT, Lockett, Parker, Landry, Shepard, Patrick, Quez, Dede, Miller
Gibson, MG, Singletary, Cohen, Gallman, Breida, Royce, Brown, Smith
Andrews, Henry, Knox, Parham

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby CGW » Sat May 09, 2020 8:16 am

DJM
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Cousins, Trubisky, Flacco
RB | Taylor, Elliott, Akers Wilkins, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Mims, Miller, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee, R Higgins
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, D. Johnson, Aiyuk, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Perriman
TE | Andrews, Henry, Sample, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Glennon, Stidham
RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
WR | Evans, Ridley, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 09, 2020 8:31 am

I still think JuJu bounces back, but Moore looks like the real deal.

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby nathanq42 » Sat May 09, 2020 8:35 am

Easily moore
12 Team 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
QB Gardner Minshew, Ryan Tannehill
RB CEH, Josh Jacobs, JK Dobbins, D'Andre Swift, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Preston Williams, Bryan Edwards, James Washington, Van Jefferson
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller
+1 Flex

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby StripesOfKC » Sat May 09, 2020 3:08 pm

Moore by infinity. Both got bleep QBs. Juju finished worse than the Taylor Gabriels and Chris Conleys of the world—not to mention a 3rd round rookie on his own team. Moore still put up high end WR2/low end WR1 numbers
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby The Showstopper » Sat May 09, 2020 3:26 pm

I guess I’m in the minority here....But I’m giving Ju Ju a pass for last year, Injuries and QB play...I wouldn’t give up Ju Ju for Moore....And honestly, it’s not that close for me either!
Team 1—12 Team PPR...
QB—-Mahomes—Jimmy G
RB’s—Gaskin—Gibson—Vaughn—Edmunds—Gallman
WR’s—-Lamb—Chark—Ju Ju—Antonio—R Higgins—Kirk—M Williams—Jacobi
TE’s—Tonyan—Thomas

Team 2—12 Team PPR Superflex
QB’s—Lamar—Jones—Darnold
RB’s—CMC—Robinson—Conner—Moss—McFarland—Vaughn
WR’s—DK—Lamb—Kenny G—Hollywood—Hilton—Meyers—R Higgins—Watkins—Keke—Boykin—
TE’s—Kittle—Gronk—Sample

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby StripesOfKC » Sat May 09, 2020 3:38 pm

The Showstopper wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 3:26 pm
I guess I’m in the minority here....But I’m giving Ju Ju a pass for last year, Injuries and QB play...I wouldn’t give up Ju Ju for Moore....And honestly, it’s not that close for me either!
Any explanation for why Golladay, Moore, Allen Robinson and Sutton produced despite bad QB play and Juju was not even the top WR on his own team? I think it might just be that they are better than him.
The other part is that you are assuming Ben—who looked awful and washed the first two games of last season before injury (small sample size I know)—is back to being a good QB following an elbow injury.
I am willing to forgive a lot due to bad QB play. After all Hopkins was WR27 with Brock but Juju was a different level of terrible in production. Not even a top 50 play last year
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby The Showstopper » Sun May 10, 2020 5:16 am

I think Ju Ju’s QB play was A lot worse than those other guys, plus add in the injury, and I’m just not ready to write him off yet...As for Ben, you could say the same thing about Teddy, he hasn’t proven anything to me yet...To me in dynasty I like to look at the ceiling, and Ju Ju’s is just higher than Moore’s...I’ve seen him get 150-160 targets WITH AB on the team....I’ll take those targets with his talent all day....I think DJ will be great, I just think Ju Ju will be better!
Team 1—12 Team PPR...
QB—-Mahomes—Jimmy G
RB’s—Gaskin—Gibson—Vaughn—Edmunds—Gallman
WR’s—-Lamb—Chark—Ju Ju—Antonio—R Higgins—Kirk—M Williams—Jacobi
TE’s—Tonyan—Thomas

Team 2—12 Team PPR Superflex
QB’s—Lamar—Jones—Darnold
RB’s—CMC—Robinson—Conner—Moss—McFarland—Vaughn
WR’s—DK—Lamb—Kenny G—Hollywood—Hilton—Meyers—R Higgins—Watkins—Keke—Boykin—
TE’s—Kittle—Gronk—Sample

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby CGW » Sun May 10, 2020 6:33 am

I agree that juju had much worse QB, by a massive margin. Duck and Rudolph are garbage QBs, and getting Ben back will significantly boost jujus production. With Ben in the lineup for 2 games last year, Juju put up a 3rd of his entire season yardage. Juju also battles injuries the entire year on top of that.

All that said, at this point I would still value DJM a bit higher.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Cousins, Trubisky, Flacco
RB | Taylor, Elliott, Akers Wilkins, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Mims, Miller, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee, R Higgins
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, D. Johnson, Aiyuk, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Perriman
TE | Andrews, Henry, Sample, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Glennon, Stidham
RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
WR | Evans, Ridley, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby grandmabetty » Sun May 10, 2020 6:58 am

DJ MOORE is the GOAT
ppr, 10 team, 6 pt all td, 40 man roster QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 Flex (r/w/t), K, IDP
Qb- Kyler Murray, cousins, Stafford
RB- [/b], Kamara, CMC,[/b] Mike davis, james white, Gus Edwards, Bryce Love
WR- Mike Evans, tyreek hill, Davante Adams, Juju Smith-Shuster,Tyler Boyd, Paris Campbell, Hollywood brown, Perriman, Russell gage
TE- kelce, Tyler Higbee, jarwin
DT - Chris Jones
DE - Demarcus Lawrence, Chandler Jones
LB - Blake Martinez, Bobby Wagner, hewitt, danny travatheon
CB - NONE
S - Landon Collins, John Johnson III, Antoine Bethea, eric reid

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2021 1st (3)
2021 2nd (3)
2021 3rd (0)
2021 4th (1)
2021 5th (1)

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sun May 10, 2020 7:05 am

Man, I wonder if I would make the swap if I had the chance from Juju to DJM, but only due to the risk involved with Juju. Everyone really is forgetting the season that Hopkins had with Oz. He lost value, etc, and there was a buy low window and then he was untouchable again.

((Extrapolation coming(cringe)) In the first 2 games with Ben last year Juju was on track for 88 receptions for 1296 yards. (Still cringing as I await the anti extrapolation committee) Yes I know that's not a great gauge, but he has had 2 seasons before that one as well. So maybe there is enough work behind those two games to feel a bit more comfortable.

Do I think he is the next Jerry Rice? No. But it's really close between he and DJM and I still very slightly lean Juju.

Juju's new risk is that Ben IS washed up, they don't have a plan for the future(Cam this season if Ben is injured) and Juju has a couple squandered years coming up.
12 man Superflex deep starting requirements with even scoring among positions

11 starters - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex, Flex.

1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, Kalen Ballage, Justin Jackson(ir), Chris Thopmson, Ryan Nall, Devine Ogzibo

WR - OBJ(IR), JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck,

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

IR- Quez Watkins,

2021 -1,2,2,2,5
2022-1,1,2,4,5

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Re: Juju or DJ Moore

Postby CGW » Sun May 10, 2020 7:10 am

grandmabetty wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:58 am
DJ MOORE is the GOAT
Hopefully there's a bit of sarcasm here. He wasn't even the GOLY (greatest of last year).
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Cousins, Trubisky, Flacco
RB | Taylor, Elliott, Akers Wilkins, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Mims, Miller, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee, R Higgins
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, D. Johnson, Aiyuk, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Perriman
TE | Andrews, Henry, Sample, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Glennon, Stidham
RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
WR | Evans, Ridley, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger


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