Trade for 1.01

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Trade for 1.01

Postby elvisn » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 am

Hi All,

I've got a deal on the table for the 1.01 for Team 2 in my signature. Is this enough for the 1.01 is it too much? This is a full must start 2QB league.

It's the worst team in the league coming to me, and I don't want to be seen to fleece him, so want something that works for both of us.

Give:
Aaron Rodgers, Christian Kirk, Anthony Miller, Jerrick McKinnon(He's got Tevin Coleman), 3.09, 4.05, 4.07, 2021 1st

Get:
1.01, Minshew, Hakeem Butler

All the players he wants from me except Jet would be starters for him. On calculators it's an average of about 20% "win" in his favour.

But I'm happy to decline this offer and counter with more if that's what's fairer.

I'd likely be taking Taylor or CEH with the 1.01
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Minshew, Hurts.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Ronald Jones, AJ Dillon, Justin Jackson, Bryce Love, Latavius Murray.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Julian Edelman, Breshad Perriman, Bryan Edwards.
TE: Evan Engram, Dallas Goedert, Adam Trautman.

Picks:
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 3rd.
2023: 1st ,2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 4Flex

QB: LJax, Goff, Minshew, Hurts, Rosen.
RB: Chubb, Cook, Dobbins, Hunt, Michel, DFreeman, J Jackson, Boone, J Hill, Love, Scott.
WR: DK, JuJu, Diontae J, Cooks, Crowder, Campbell, Edwards, A Miller, Sims, AB, Laviska, S Miller.
TE: Higbee, OJ Howard, Cook, Gesicki.

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:23 am

If the other owner likes the trade, I would go for it. Seems light to me, but Rodgers could have a few good years left. I like the trade for your build.

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:49 am

elvisn wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:45 am It's the worst team in the league coming to me, and I don't want to be seen to fleecing him, so want something that works for both of us.

Give: Aaron Rodgers, Christian Kirk, Anthony Miller, Jerrick McKinnon(He's got Tevin Coleman), 3.09, 4.05, 4.07, 2021 1st
Get: 1.01, Minshew, Hakeem Butler
Um...this is the definition of fleecing him.

Minshew = Kirk + Miller. This is basically getting the 1.01 in a 2QB league for Rodgers + 2021 1st.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby CGW » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:51 am

Yeah you are fleecing him. But if he will make the trade, do it.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:56 am

This is easily the 1.01, but I'm confused. You're trading for the 1.01 in a 2QB league and not taking Burrow? I think that's a big mistake considering it would leave you with Darnold/Minshew as your QB2. A combo of Jackson/Burrow for the next ten years....
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby CGW » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:01 am

Yeah I missed that part. Why trade to the 1.01 and not take the 1.01 asset?

Id still make the trade, and then move back from 1.01 to someone who will pay a kings ransom for burrow.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby elvisn » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:17 am

The offer was sent to me by the 1.01 owner. As I said, he's got the worst roster by far and is probably the least knowledgeable owner in the league. I want to try get a deal done that's fair for both of us that we could both be happy with. As I said, I don't want to fleece him, so I'll reject, counter with a fair offer and try to educate a bit about values and how to build offers a little better. I've already got him around to using calculators as a starting point which is a win for him and has helped him reject a few trades already (most recently Mixon and 2.08 for 1.01 and 1.09).

Trading a lot of capital for the 1.01 and not getting an RB with my team needs doesn't make sense. The league doesn't like Tua, although I'd prefer Tua to Burrow. Trading back isn't an option.

If no trade happens, current owner will take Burrow. If he doesn't, 1.02 will take him. If Burrow is gone at 1, then 2, 3 and 4 will likely go CEH, Taylor and then either an RB/WR. So I'll probably get Tua at 5, or take what's left of the RBs in which case the value is gone. Only person will to move a pick is the 1.

So what would be a more equitable trade to counter with for the 1.01 that would still make sense for my team with the idea that I'll be taking Taylor/CEH?

Basically I'd hate to come away from this and for him to think I've "had" him. I want his team to improve and I want him to stay interested in his roster and the league. Or is the best move here just to leave him make his selection at 1.01?

Thanks so much for the responses so far, I'll definitely decline this offer from him for starters.
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Minshew, Hurts.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Ronald Jones, AJ Dillon, Justin Jackson, Bryce Love, Latavius Murray.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Julian Edelman, Breshad Perriman, Bryan Edwards.
TE: Evan Engram, Dallas Goedert, Adam Trautman.

Picks:
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 3rd.
2023: 1st ,2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 4Flex

QB: LJax, Goff, Minshew, Hurts, Rosen.
RB: Chubb, Cook, Dobbins, Hunt, Michel, DFreeman, J Jackson, Boone, J Hill, Love, Scott.
WR: DK, JuJu, Diontae J, Cooks, Crowder, Campbell, Edwards, A Miller, Sims, AB, Laviska, S Miller.
TE: Higbee, OJ Howard, Cook, Gesicki.

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby CGW » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:22 am

Dunno, sounds like you got it all pretty well planned out.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Trade for 1.01

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:25 am

I mean, I'd just make the trade. It's not THAT egregious. Then I'd take Burrow. But if you're dead set on not taking Burrow, then I'd trade it and move back a couple of picks.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4


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