For team in sig., which side would you rather have?
Adams
or
A. Robinson, Lockett, Hilton and 2021 first (mid to late)
Adams is obv. the most valuable piece but the depth is nice and I have no 2021 firsts. Im leaning towards the package. Thoughts?
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Adams vs. package
Adams vs. package
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RB - J. Williams, Akers, Michel, McFarland, Da. Williams, J. Patterson, Ty Johnson, K. Hill, Bolden, Mostert
WR - D. Johnson, Ridley, Jeudy, Aiyuk, Gallup, Pittman, J. Meyers, Juju, Cephus, Q. Watkins
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Re: Adams vs. package
I would want a different piece then Hilton. I'm holding Adams but I'm not as high on Robinson as most either.
Re: Adams vs. package
I’d hold Adams. The depth is nice but you need RB help more than WR depth. If you’re wanting to sell Adams, a RB needs to be in the package or try to trade Adams for a Kamara type.
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Re: Adams vs. package
It's a nice depth move, but TBH, if you move one of your top WRs, you need to acquire an RB1 type in the deal. This downgrades your starting lineup and while the depth is there, I'd rather have 3 stud WRs and 2 upside guys (Deebo/Gallup) to choose from as flex week-to-week than to have 2 studs, 2 solids, 2 upside and wherever TY falls in there. And what kind of an RB can you get for a Hilton, Gallup, Deebo type to be your RB2? Nothing too great likely. What pick is your 1st?
Seems most disagree with me but that's my take.
Seems most disagree with me but that's my take.
Re: Adams vs. package
Adams.
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Re: Adams vs. package
I think the value is close, but don't see it as beneficial for your team. You are short on RBs, while you seem to have a solid core of WR. I'd hold Adams unless you could get an RB.
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TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
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Re: Adams vs. package
Value is close on paper but you are acquiring declining assets (Lockett and especially Hilton). And ARob is perennially undervalued. And this doesn’t address your main weakness which is RB. Easy pass.
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RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
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RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
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Re: Adams vs. package
That's too much value to pass up for Adams. I'd say Adams = Robinson + 2021 1st + Hilton, and getting Lockett on top makes this an easy call. Even if you don't need more WR help, you can flip Lockett for a RB or a late 1st/early 2nd and have Hilton as a depth piece for bye weeks and injuries.
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Re: Adams vs. package
I agree. I like ARob and Lockett this year, but it makes little sense to diversify using a high end asset if you don’t get a RB in the package. Any RB on his squad you could swap out for Lockett and/or TY?DatDude23 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:38 am It's a nice depth move, but TBH, if you move one of your top WRs, you need to acquire an RB1 type in the deal. This downgrades your starting lineup and while the depth is there, I'd rather have 3 stud WRs and 2 upside guys (Deebo/Gallup) to choose from as flex week-to-week than to have 2 studs, 2 solids, 2 upside and wherever TY falls in there. And what kind of an RB can you get for a Hilton, Gallup, Deebo type to be your RB2? Nothing too great likely. What pick is your 1st?
Seems most disagree with me but that's my take.
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Re: Adams vs. package
Thanks for all your input guys. I really do appreciate it. The trade was revoked! I think I would have rejected it, based on the idea of getting an RB in return.
24 Team (2x copy) .5 ppr 30 man roster
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1K, 1DST
QB - Hurts, Wilson, Winston
RB - J. Williams, Akers, Michel, McFarland, Da. Williams, J. Patterson, Ty Johnson, K. Hill, Bolden, Mostert
WR - D. Johnson, Ridley, Jeudy, Aiyuk, Gallup, Pittman, J. Meyers, Juju, Cephus, Q. Watkins
TE - Hockensen, L. Thomas, Engram, Trautman
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1K, 1DST
QB - Hurts, Wilson, Winston
RB - J. Williams, Akers, Michel, McFarland, Da. Williams, J. Patterson, Ty Johnson, K. Hill, Bolden, Mostert
WR - D. Johnson, Ridley, Jeudy, Aiyuk, Gallup, Pittman, J. Meyers, Juju, Cephus, Q. Watkins
TE - Hockensen, L. Thomas, Engram, Trautman
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