Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Which Side

Harry Side
2
12%
Goedert Side
15
88%
 
Total votes: 17

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Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby Heartwork » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:57 pm

Give: 2021 1st, Goedert, 2021 4th
Get: Harry, 2.01, 2.05

He also has 2.08 and 3.06, 3.07, 3.10

Should I be asking for more, too much, or not enough?

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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby Edgy68 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:20 pm

Harry was a high 1st last year, but still needs to show he can develop. Goedert=2.01, so the gap between the future 4th and current 2nd should be compared to the gap from Harry to the future 1st.
I think it leans your way. It’s not insulting, but I don’t see the incentive for the Harry owner to take it. You might be able to get one of those 2nds or a 3rd instead. It is always worth trying though.
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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby Packerland » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:29 pm

I would rather have the 1st and Goedert.
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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:31 pm

Goedert = 2.01
2021 1st >= Harry
2.05 > 2021 4th

It's in your favor, but it's a decent starting offer depending on how much the other owner likes Harry. I'd send it and see what happens.
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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:59 pm

Fair offer. You come out on top, but no reason not to send it as an opener.

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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:14 am

It's fair, but I'd rather have Goedert and the first myself.
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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby Oddball456 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:23 am

Seems fair but has too many parts for the initial offer. 2.01 and 2.05 should offer some decent prospects this year. Does the other team have WR depth and need a TE? Why not just offer 2021 first for Harry, assuming Harry is your main target in the trade?

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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby killer_of_giants » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:14 am

goedert > harry

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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby DonBrazi » Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:25 am

Accidentally voted Harry side.. I'd go 2021 1st side.
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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby jwb32 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:47 am

If I’m moving my future 1st, I want a more proven asset that Harry. And this is the absolute worst time to be moving future picks. At least wait til after draft.
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RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

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RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
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TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
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WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
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Re: Fair / Insulting Offer?!?!

Postby Zacsby » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:55 am

I see no incentive for Harry owner to take this deal. He just spent a high 1st on Harry and last year was a write off. Not what you wanted to see but can't really dock him for it either. Harry > a future AND late 1st to him and 2.01 + 2.05 > Goedert. While it's not "insulting" I wouldn't like the chances of it being accepted.

You're giving up likely a very late future 1st and a backup TE for a guy who was an early 1st round pick who didn't get a fair shake + two current 2nd round picks in an exceptionally deep draft. The more I look at this the crazier the poll results seem to me.
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TE - Andrews, ISJ
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LB - Lloyd, JOK, Gay, Bush
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QB - Fields, Jimmy G
RB - Henry, Kamara, Swift, Herbert
WR - Adams, Juju, Jakobi, Theilen
TE - Hock, Everett
DL - Garrett, Buckner, Sweat
LB - White, David, Okereke, Jack
DB - Budda, CJGJ, Dugger, Byard


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