First dynasty startup draft last night!

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First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby noen10 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:55 am

Team 1 in signature. How'd I do. what should I target. I feel like my weakness is in WR and TE. Should I try to trade down from 1.02 or should I target a good WR there?
Thanks,
Nick

Team 1:
10 Team PPR, 1 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2020 finish: 10-6 3rd place
2021 Finished: 2nd place 8-6
2022 finished 5th 9-5
2023 finished 1st 9-5


QB: J.Allen, TLaw, K.Murray
RB: J.Taylor, KWIII, D.Henry, Akers, Jav.Williams, K.Williams, Khunt, MCarter, ZWhite
WR: CD lamb, J.Waddle, D.London, Puka, D.Johnson, Keenan Allen, J.Williams, Tank, KShakir, QJohnston, MWilson, DDouglas, RShaheed, X.Gipson
TE: Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 3
2025: 3
2026: 1, 3


Team 2:
10 Team PPR, START: 2 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2023 finished 3rd 7-7

QB: Burrow, Richardson, Minshew, Stafford, Trask
RB: Najee, Mixon, JConner, DCook, Mostert, Moss, KHerbert, KWilliams, Tsermon
WR: JChase, DK, CKirk, CWatson, XGipson, KBourne, DParker, Chark, NBrown, CAustin, TTucker, APierce, RShaheed, Ma.Mims
TE: TJ Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 1.7, 2.7, 3.7
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby DatDude23 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:01 am

I think that team is set up quite nicely for start up! Very nice QB1/2 for SF with a couple backup options, Cam lotto ticket bonus if he lands somewhere nice and is healthy. RBs are really strong, and while your WR1 isn't amazing, he's solid. You've got F1 as your WR2 which I am a big fan of, and you got several upside guys like Slayton, Diontae, Miller and Williams who could all end up as good WR3 options. TE nice also and you net 1.02, wow.

Tua is the pick at 1.02, or at least you should make it known to your league that's who you're taking even if you're weakest at WR, because odds are that you will trade 1.02 to a QB needy team for a stud WR, nothing less.
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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:11 am

1. You should be taking Tua with the 1.02.
2. If for some reason you are not planning on taking Tua, then you should be shopping it around and should sell it.
3. Your biggest weakness is at WR. That’s the first area you should be addressing.
4. You have three incredibly young QBs, so I don’t think it would be the end of the world to move the 1.02 if you get a good package and can strengthen your WRs.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby abloom » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:51 am

#1 looks like a 10 team league where you had the 1.09 in startup and the 1.02 in rookie. If thats the case, just fyi, thats a horrible way to do a startup draft.

#2 if it is indeed a 10 team league, Tua is not the clear set 1.02. a 10 team SF runs closer to a 16 team 1QB league than a 12 team SF league.

#3 you should be looking at a team with weak QB, late rookie pick, and decent WRs and looking to trade the 1.02 rookie pick to that team for a WR.

Overall, if its a 12 team league the team isn't bad, if its a 10 team league, i think you're in trouble.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby noen10 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:12 am

abloom wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:51 am #1 looks like a 10 team league where you had the 1.09 in startup and the 1.02 in rookie. If thats the case, just fyi, thats a horrible way to do a startup draft.

#2 if it is indeed a 10 team league, Tua is not the clear set 1.02. a 10 team SF runs closer to a 16 team 1QB league than a 12 team SF league.

#3 you should be looking at a team with weak QB, late rookie pick, and decent WRs and looking to trade the 1.02 rookie pick to that team for a WR.

Overall, if its a 12 team league the team isn't bad, if its a 10 team league, i think you're in trouble.
it is a 10 team. I feel like if I could pick the right WR or get a good haul from someone I can be in a good spot. What would you suggest the way to do startup? This was my first one and seemed like the fairest way to do one that is not auction based.
Thanks,
Nick

Team 1:
10 Team PPR, 1 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2020 finish: 10-6 3rd place
2021 Finished: 2nd place 8-6
2022 finished 5th 9-5
2023 finished 1st 9-5


QB: J.Allen, TLaw, K.Murray
RB: J.Taylor, KWIII, D.Henry, Akers, Jav.Williams, K.Williams, Khunt, MCarter, ZWhite
WR: CD lamb, J.Waddle, D.London, Puka, D.Johnson, Keenan Allen, J.Williams, Tank, KShakir, QJohnston, MWilson, DDouglas, RShaheed, X.Gipson
TE: Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 3
2025: 3
2026: 1, 3


Team 2:
10 Team PPR, START: 2 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2023 finished 3rd 7-7

QB: Burrow, Richardson, Minshew, Stafford, Trask
RB: Najee, Mixon, JConner, DCook, Mostert, Moss, KHerbert, KWilliams, Tsermon
WR: JChase, DK, CKirk, CWatson, XGipson, KBourne, DParker, Chark, NBrown, CAustin, TTucker, APierce, RShaheed, Ma.Mims
TE: TJ Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 1.7, 2.7, 3.7
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:15 am

WR depth drops off quickly after your top two, but overall a pretty solid roster.
Kittles Pox | Championships: 2015, 2017
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:20 am

noen10 wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:12 am
it is a 10 team. I feel like if I could pick the right WR or get a good haul from someone I can be in a good spot. What would you suggest the way to do startup? This was my first one and seemed like the fairest way to do one that is not auction based.
Fairest way to do it is to have the picks in the start up and let players draft the picks.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby noen10 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:24 am

FantasyFoosball wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:20 am Fairest way to do it is to have the picks in the start up and let players draft the picks.
how is that the fairest? at the end of the round you are screwed with less talented players, so you are trying to get the most value out of those players and then be screwed on the other end because when you are doing that you can't get a chance to get the first round picks. on the turn? I just don't understand how that is the fairest. It rewards picks 1-5 more so than 6-10.
Thanks,
Nick

Team 1:
10 Team PPR, 1 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2020 finish: 10-6 3rd place
2021 Finished: 2nd place 8-6
2022 finished 5th 9-5
2023 finished 1st 9-5


QB: J.Allen, TLaw, K.Murray
RB: J.Taylor, KWIII, D.Henry, Akers, Jav.Williams, K.Williams, Khunt, MCarter, ZWhite
WR: CD lamb, J.Waddle, D.London, Puka, D.Johnson, Keenan Allen, J.Williams, Tank, KShakir, QJohnston, MWilson, DDouglas, RShaheed, X.Gipson
TE: Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 3
2025: 3
2026: 1, 3


Team 2:
10 Team PPR, START: 2 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2023 finished 3rd 7-7

QB: Burrow, Richardson, Minshew, Stafford, Trask
RB: Najee, Mixon, JConner, DCook, Mostert, Moss, KHerbert, KWilliams, Tsermon
WR: JChase, DK, CKirk, CWatson, XGipson, KBourne, DParker, Chark, NBrown, CAustin, TTucker, APierce, RShaheed, Ma.Mims
TE: TJ Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 1.7, 2.7, 3.7
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:30 am

noen10 wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:24 am
FantasyFoosball wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:20 am Fairest way to do it is to have the picks in the start up and let players draft the picks.
how is that the fairest? at the end of the round you are screwed with less talented players, so you are trying to get the most value out of those players and then be screwed on the other end because when you are doing that you can't get a chance to get the first round picks. on the turn? I just don't understand how that is the fairest. It rewards picks 1-5 more so than 6-10.
Lol. Didn’t you say this was your first and only startup?
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby noen10 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:33 am

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Lol. Didn’t you say this was your first and only startup?
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Correct that is why I am asking? Obviously I am asking for some insight.
Thanks,
Nick

Team 1:
10 Team PPR, 1 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2020 finish: 10-6 3rd place
2021 Finished: 2nd place 8-6
2022 finished 5th 9-5
2023 finished 1st 9-5


QB: J.Allen, TLaw, K.Murray
RB: J.Taylor, KWIII, D.Henry, Akers, Jav.Williams, K.Williams, Khunt, MCarter, ZWhite
WR: CD lamb, J.Waddle, D.London, Puka, D.Johnson, Keenan Allen, J.Williams, Tank, KShakir, QJohnston, MWilson, DDouglas, RShaheed, X.Gipson
TE: Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 3
2025: 3
2026: 1, 3


Team 2:
10 Team PPR, START: 2 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2023 finished 3rd 7-7

QB: Burrow, Richardson, Minshew, Stafford, Trask
RB: Najee, Mixon, JConner, DCook, Mostert, Moss, KHerbert, KWilliams, Tsermon
WR: JChase, DK, CKirk, CWatson, XGipson, KBourne, DParker, Chark, NBrown, CAustin, TTucker, APierce, RShaheed, Ma.Mims
TE: TJ Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 1.7, 2.7, 3.7
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:38 am

I don’t know how to make it any clearer. The fairest way to do a dynasty startup is to have the rookies or rookie picks in the draft and let players pick them. The worst way to do it is to give them out based on draft pick position. My insight is from doing start up drafts with both formats.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:39 am

Just like the best way to do a rookie draft is after the NFL draft, not before it. Why? I’ve done it both ways. It just is.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby Mtt33 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:13 am

Disagree that tua is the clear 1.02 in a 10 team Superflex. Wouldn’t be taking a wr there though, trade back if thats your plan.

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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby abloom » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:49 am

noen10 wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:12 am
abloom wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:51 am #1 looks like a 10 team league where you had the 1.09 in startup and the 1.02 in rookie. If thats the case, just fyi, thats a horrible way to do a startup draft.

#2 if it is indeed a 10 team league, Tua is not the clear set 1.02. a 10 team SF runs closer to a 16 team 1QB league than a 12 team SF league.

#3 you should be looking at a team with weak QB, late rookie pick, and decent WRs and looking to trade the 1.02 rookie pick to that team for a WR.

Overall, if its a 12 team league the team isn't bad, if its a 10 team league, i think you're in trouble.
it is a 10 team. I feel like if I could pick the right WR or get a good haul from someone I can be in a good spot. What would you suggest the way to do startup? This was my first one and seemed like the fairest way to do one that is not auction based.
You either include the rookie picks in the draft (ie someone at 3.10 can draft the 1.01 rookie pick) and then you do the rookie draft after the NFL draft, or you just have the rookies available in the startup draft.

Those are the fairest ways. The startup draft is balanced in itself since its a snake draft. This year you can get away with doing a draft the way you are doing it because there is a lot of depth and no clear cut rookie 1.01. But take a look at Barkley's rookie year. He was easily the 1.01 in just about any format. If you had the last pick in the first round of startups and the first pick in the rookie draft you had a huge advantage because you essentially had 2 first round startup picks, and no one else had that.

Since its a ten teamer, you're gonna have some problems. Trade down or trade for a WR

for a 10 teamer you need to have studs to win. You lack studs but you have depth, you need to try to convert that depth into studs if possible. If you can't, you should sell off Ingram and Jones and start a rebuild while hoping that some of your young WRs hit this year.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: First dynasty startup draft last night!

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:16 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:15 am WR depth drops off quickly after your top two, but overall a pretty solid roster.
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