Trade Leverage

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Trade Leverage

Postby makemeasandwich » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:41 pm

Do you guys typically make the first offer, or do you think you lose leverage by being the first to offer? I'm in a few leagues that aren't very active, so I feel I need to make the first offer or none will come in.

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:48 pm

I usually ask the owner first if they have any interest in moving a player and if so, what are you thinking. If I feel confident in my offer, I will send it before asking. My league is very active and lots of texting.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 Roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: P. Mahomes, J. Allen
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon, D. Guice, L. Murray, R. Anderson, R. Calais
WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, M. Williams, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
TE: I. Thomas, O.J. Howard, D. Njoku, G. Everett, A. Okwuegbunam, G. Olsen

2021 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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12 Team, PPR, 1.5 TE Premium, 25 Roster, 5 Taxi Squad: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, 1 Super Flex
QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
TE: N. Fant, H. Hurst, C. Herndon, T. Moss

2021 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby smbkrypt24 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:54 pm

I place players out on a list I would be willing to trade. Others in the league do the same and I try to see team needs and will make offers based on that.
I also sometimes make offers just because I really want a player with no knowledge of if he is available.
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2013 Startup
Team 1- Defending Champ
QB: Prescott, Roethlisberger, Luck
RB: Barkley, Elliott, Cook, Edmonds, McKinnon
WR: T. Hill, AJB, Di. Johnson, Coutee, A. Brown
TE: Andrews, Cook, Gronk, Everett, Dissly
Kicker: Zuerlein
Def: 49ers

2020: 3.12
2021: 3rd, 3rd

2019 Startup
Team 2- 10th in 2019
QB: Roethlisberger, Luck
RB: Mixon, Hunt, Mack, Edmonds, Du. Johnson McKinnon, Miller
WR: T. Hill, Evans, OBJ, JuJu, M. Brown, Ross, Coutee
TE: Ebron, Dissly
Kicker: Prater
Def: Cowboys

2021: 1st, 1st

12 team Superflex. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SFlex, 25 bench, 5 taxi, 3 IR.
Team 3:
QB: Minshew, Hill, Newton, Winston, Keenum
RB: Guice, Michel, Lindsay, AP, McCoy, Burkhead, Harris
WR: Di. Johnson, Sanu, Agholor, Isabella, Conley, ESB, JJAW
TE: Ebron, McDonald

1.01, 5.01
2021: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
2022, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:55 pm

smbkrypt24 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:54 pm
I place players out on a list I would be willing to trade. Others in the league do the same and I try to see team needs and will make offers based on that.
I also sometimes make offers just because I really want a player with no knowledge of if he is available.
Also a good way to go. We have a league chat and owners will post players they are looking to move there and positions/picks they are looking for.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 Roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: P. Mahomes, J. Allen
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon, D. Guice, L. Murray, R. Anderson, R. Calais
WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, M. Williams, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
TE: I. Thomas, O.J. Howard, D. Njoku, G. Everett, A. Okwuegbunam, G. Olsen

2021 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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12 Team, PPR, 1.5 TE Premium, 25 Roster, 5 Taxi Squad: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, 1 Super Flex
QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
TE: N. Fant, H. Hurst, C. Herndon, T. Moss

2021 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby abloom » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:58 pm

If I see a player I want I make the first offer. It's usually a decent deal, probably slightly in my favor and then I include a message stating that I'm open to further discussions
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wentz, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, Peterson, Armstead
WR: OBJ, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Goedert, Henry
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1.03 (Taylor),4.11 (Everett),5.11 (Bowden),7.11
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Dynasty Team #2: 2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Gurley, Ingram, S Michel, Thompson, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Edwards, Funchess
TE: Fant, Hurst
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2021 picks, 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,7
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10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby jwb32 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:01 pm

First step is assessing the other owners roster. A contender is much less likely to sell a Julio or AJG than a rebuild. Then send a fair offer that makes sense for both rosters. I usually send my best offer right up front. I’m rarely interested in a counter. I’ve made several deals over the past few weeks so this strategy works for me.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Lamar,Rivers
RBs- Cook, Sanders, CEH,,Michel, Murray, Mattison, LPerine
WRs- OBJ, Golladay, MWilliams, Cooks, Reagor, Diontae, Crowder, Duvernay
TEs-Kittle,, Waller, Fant,Doyle,Jace

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Stafford, Darnold, Foles
RBs- Akers, DJ, Duke, Dallas, Kelley, Edwards
WRs- Adams, Boyd, Samuel, Diontae, Harry, Devernay, Harmon, Boykin
TEs- Hock, Jarwin, Olsen, Hollister
2021 1st (5) 2021 2nd (2)

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Wentz, ,Stafford, Rivers,Fitz,Tyrod
RBs- Cook, Singletary, DamienW, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Thomes, Evans, Allen, Boyd,Gallup,Samuel,Preston,Crowder
TEs- Waller,,Jonnu,Herndon,Moreau
2020 - 1.08, 3.05

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby tresskid84 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:13 pm

jwb32 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:01 pm
First step is assessing the other owners roster. A contender is much less likely to sell a Julio or AJG than a rebuild. Then send a fair offer that makes sense for both rosters. I usually send my best offer right up front. I’m rarely interested in a counter. I’ve made several deals over the past few weeks so this strategy works for me.
Yeah, I do the same. I almost always am the one sending the first offer, esp if its someone I want, and I typically don't mess around "trying to win" a trade, because for a trade to happen, both sides need to feel like they are winning anyway. Send fair offers, fair offers will come back your way (or easy rejects, lol).
16tm PPR, Superflex, 1.5 TE prem, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is current rookies and devy (only NFL draft-eligible players for the following year) combined

QB: T Lawrence (DEVY), J Fields (DEVY), Grier
RB: Etienne (DEVY), C Hubbard (DEVY), N Harris (DEVY), K Brooks (DEVY), B Scott, B Scarbrough, B Love
WR: C Lamb, T McLaurin, J Chase (DEVY), R Moore (DEVY), J Waddle (DEVY), T Higgins, T Wallace (DEVY), Isabella, Pettis, A Tate, Bisi, G Ward
TE: H Hurst, Sternberger, Firsker, B Jordan(DEVY), C Kolar(DEVY)
2021 Picks: three 1sts, one 2nd

Safe L 287 rebuild: 12tm PPR, Superflex, 2.0 TE prem;
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 2 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield
RB: Jacobs, Conner, Henderson, Cohen, Bowden, M Brown, Love, Scarbrough, D Anderson
WR: McLaurin, M Brown, Reagor, Higgins, Shenault, Diontae, A Miller, H Butler, Ward, C Johnson
TE: Andrews, Hock, Moreau, Olsen
2021 Picks: four 1sts, three 2nds

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby makemeasandwich » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:34 pm

I've had Zeke, Cook, Fournette on trade bait for months and haven't received a single offer. I really need to get some depth on this one squad, but it seems everyone thinks their '20 rookie picks will hit and they don't need an RB anymore.

Rodgers, Cousins
Zeke, Cook, Fournette
Hill, Boyd, Edelman, Kirk
Hooper
No picks

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Re: Trade Leverage

Postby FiremanEd » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:13 pm

I almost always am the first offer and haven’t had issues. I will give what I’ll give and go in at or damn near what I will do. If someone wants more, I’ll do it or move on. Waiting for others to offer after you reach out gains you nothing. If you want something, make it happen. Few things annoy me more than people asking me what I’d want to give up my player. Not doing the work for them. They can set their line and I’ll walk away or play ball depending where they start.


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