Carr vs. Foles and Package

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Which side?

Carr, 2020 3,3,4,5,5
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94%
Dede Westbrook, Foles, and Breida
1
6%
 
Total votes: 18

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Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby rmacattack6 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:20 pm

10 Team Superflex, TE 0.5 bonus. Already own Minshew
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QB - Jackson, Stafford, Darnold
RB - Chubb, Mack, Henderson, Mostert, Howard, Coleman, Cohen, T.Pollard, D.Harris, D. Freeman
WR - Hopkins, Thielen, Robinson, Metcalf, M.Jones, Washington, Arcega-Whiteside
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RB - Chubb, Mack, Coleman, Penny, D Harris, D. Freeman
WR -Thomas, Moore, Boyd, Ridley, Sanders, Jeffrey, Crowder, Campbell, Miller, Sims Jr
TE - Kittle, Hurst, Knox

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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:30 pm

Carr is the best piece here, quite easily IMO. Minshew doesn't have anything to do with getting Foles, IMO. Carr is a starting caliber QB, and Foles isn't.
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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby Goddard » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Agree, still gotta go with Carr. As of right now, he's a starting QB and the piece in this deal by far.

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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby jwb32 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:00 pm

Carr.....even without the picks.
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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby RB6 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:05 pm

Carr side easily. Foles is worthless.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:35 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:30 pm Carr is the best piece here, quite easily IMO. Minshew doesn't have anything to do with getting Foles, IMO. Carr is a starting caliber QB, and Foles isn't.
I hate Carr. I’d argue the two 3rds are the best pieces in the deal,

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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby Goddard » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:38 pm

sugbear65 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:35 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:30 pm Carr is the best piece here, quite easily IMO. Minshew doesn't have anything to do with getting Foles, IMO. Carr is a starting caliber QB, and Foles isn't.
I hate Carr. I’d argue the two 3rds are the best pieces in the deal,
Even if you hate Carr, how is a 3rd worth more than a starting QB...or even a backup QB in a SF?

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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:44 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:38 pm
sugbear65 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:35 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:30 pm Carr is the best piece here, quite easily IMO. Minshew doesn't have anything to do with getting Foles, IMO. Carr is a starting caliber QB, and Foles isn't.
I hate Carr. I’d argue the two 3rds are the best pieces in the deal,
Even if you hate Carr, how is a 3rd worth more than a starting QB...or even a backup QB in a SF?
It was meant somewhat tongue in cheek. But I do hate Carr. And if he does lose his job, I would want the two 3rds over him. As it stands though yes, I won’t try and argue value wise he is worth more. But as far as backup QBs go in a superflex, I’d rather have a couple 3rds than a large amount of the backups across the league. If/when Carr becomes one, add him to that list.
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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:44 pm

sugbear65 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:44 pm
Goddard wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:38 pm
sugbear65 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:35 pm

I hate Carr. I’d argue the two 3rds are the best pieces in the deal,
Even if you hate Carr, how is a 3rd worth more than a starting QB...or even a backup QB in a SF?
It was meant somewhat tongue in cheek. But I do hate Carr. And if he does lose his job, I would want the two 3rds over him. As it stands though yes, I won’t try and argue value wise he is worth more. But as far as backup QBs go in a superflex, I’d rather have a couple 3rds than a large amount of the backups across the league. If/when Carr becomes one, add him to that list.

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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:00 pm

Carr side.

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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:39 pm

Carr is starting foles isn’t, everything else is so low end it doesn’t matter

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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby CGW » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:48 pm

Carr. As much as the raiders are "shopping" QBs in this off season, carr is still likely to remain the starter. I'd need more than a couple bench players to sell off a starting QB.
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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:18 pm

Meh I really don't think Carr or Foles is a long-term starter in the league. Basically a couple of 3rds for Westbrook and Breida. Honestly I'll take the Carr side if only for the picks.
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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:50 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:18 pm Meh I really don't think Carr or Foles is a long-term starter in the league. Basically a couple of 3rds for Westbrook and Breida. Honestly I'll take the Carr side if only for the picks.
Carr should be. He gets way too much hate. Guy had over 70 percent completion percentage, over 100 passer rating, was top ten in yards per attempt, etc. with a hurt Tyrell Williams and Zay Jones as his two outside receivers. He isn't elite, but he's definitely a top 32 QB, and I think he will be for a few years at least. Not sure what long term is, but I think Carr is most definitely going to be a relevant starting QB longer than Foles, who may never be again as of now.
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Re: Carr vs. Foles and Package

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:49 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:50 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:18 pm Meh I really don't think Carr or Foles is a long-term starter in the league. Basically a couple of 3rds for Westbrook and Breida. Honestly I'll take the Carr side if only for the picks.
Carr should be. He gets way too much hate. Guy had over 70 percent completion percentage, over 100 passer rating, was top ten in yards per attempt, etc. with a hurt Tyrell Williams and Zay Jones as his two outside receivers. He isn't elite, but he's definitely a top 32 QB, and I think he will be for a few years at least. Not sure what long term is, but I think Carr is most definitely going to be a relevant starting QB longer than Foles, who may never be again as of now.
I disagree. I regard Carr much like Bridgewater, who incidentally were the two worst QBs in the league when it came to air yards per attempt. They're game manager types who will be relegated to backup duty sooner rather than later. I know Bridgewater had his knee injury, but I think he would've been a backup by now even had he stayed healthy.
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