Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby smbkrypt24 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:54 am

I would take Hill over DJ Moore and 1.04. I prefer studs and not sure DJ Moore is a stud or just a good WR.
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2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy, Fields
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, D. Johnson, JSN, Doubs, Meyers, Thomas, Toney
TE: Andrews, Likely, Dulcic

2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 1, 2, 2

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QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, D. Adams, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely

2024: 1.01, 1.06, 1.08, 2.09
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3

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Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Goff, Watson, Cousins, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo

2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.06, 2.07, 2.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:19 pm

smbkrypt24 wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:54 am I would take Hill over DJ Moore and 1.04. I prefer studs and not sure DJ Moore is a stud or just a good WR.
Considering Moore's numbers, and the fact he is a lot younger than Hill, I tend to disagree. If Moore were playing in KC with Mahomes, and Hill in Carolina with Grier/Allen last year, I think it would have turned out quite differently.
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:22 pm

Goddard wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:41 am With the Moore hype and the hate towards Hill, this is a pretty fair deal. If I'm competing, I'd rather have Hill. If not, I'd probably go with the Moore side based on current value.
I don't really consider it hype once a guy has broken out for almost 90 catches and 1200 yards in basically 14 games, at the age of 22, and was a first round pick with a fantastic profile coming out of college.
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby usps33 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:11 am

Goddard wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:41 am With the Moore hype and the hate towards Hill, this is a pretty fair deal. If I'm competing, I'd rather have Hill. If not, I'd probably go with the Moore side based on current value.
This is how I feel also, Hill owners should feel at least a little relief that he was just recently awarded full custody of his son, I don’t think too many of us would ever thought that would happen this time last year. With Mahomes as his QB it’s just so hard to trade Tyreek away if you are a top/competing team. I like DJ Moore a lot too. If I didn’t think I had a decent shot at winning the championship this year, I’d probably make this trade also.

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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby Fantasy>>>Reality » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:48 am

very nice deal for you, i am big on djm
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby Kmani6 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:04 am

being Tied to Mahomes for the future is huge... give me Tyreek. Moore’s lack of TDs may be because CMC hogs them all in that offense. Then again, Moore Didn’t score many at all in college either. Hope he’s not got the KA curse.
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QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby Dynastydumpsterfire » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:09 am

I own both and this is hill easily. He is a week winner can put up 35+ any given week. I love Moore too but I would need another late 1st to consider this.
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QB.-Brady, Stafford, Garoppolo, Ridder
RB.-Chubb, Kamara, Fournette, K Hunt, Z White,
WR.- Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, B Cooks, MVS, Thielen, Marvin Jones, Zay Jones, Skowronek, Velus Jones
TE.- Hurst, Conklin, Schultz, Taysom Hill
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LB.- Brooks, Loyd
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby Kmani6 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:17 am

Yeah I just see hills ceiling being really freaking high. He was tied for WR 1 in 2018, and you gotta think the healthy Mahomes/hill combo is unreal. Hill was like dropping 35-40 point weeks and it wasn’t even unexpected...

The TD department is a lock, but also having A healthy Mahomes yardage floor being somewhere around 4500 yards is insane.

Moore is definitely a great player in his own right, but he’s not a top 5 dynasty WR like hill is to me. Regardless if that’s QB situation or not.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

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10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby pmart33 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:44 am

I think the Moore hype has gotten a little out of hand this offseason. But with this class I’d be comfortable taking Moore and 1.04 back for Hill.
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Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

Team 2
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Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

1.01 1.03
4 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
2.01

Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby smbkrypt24 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:45 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:19 pm
smbkrypt24 wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:54 am I would take Hill over DJ Moore and 1.04. I prefer studs and not sure DJ Moore is a stud or just a good WR.
Considering Moore's numbers, and the fact he is a lot younger than Hill, I tend to disagree. If Moore were playing in KC with Mahomes, and Hill in Carolina with Grier/Allen last year, I think it would have turned out quite differently.
Hill is 26 and Moore is about to be 23. We can play this hypothetical game of put this player here and this player there and imagine what would happen, but the fact of the matter is that Hill is in KC with Mahommes and DJ Moore has Grier/Allen/FA/Rookie throwing him he ball.
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2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy, Fields
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, D. Johnson, JSN, Doubs, Meyers, Thomas, Toney
TE: Andrews, Likely, Dulcic

2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 1, 2, 2

2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, D. Adams, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely

2024: 1.01, 1.06, 1.08, 2.09
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3

2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Goff, Watson, Cousins, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo

2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.06, 2.07, 2.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:51 am

smbkrypt24 wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:45 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:19 pm
smbkrypt24 wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:54 am I would take Hill over DJ Moore and 1.04. I prefer studs and not sure DJ Moore is a stud or just a good WR.
Considering Moore's numbers, and the fact he is a lot younger than Hill, I tend to disagree. If Moore were playing in KC with Mahomes, and Hill in Carolina with Grier/Allen last year, I think it would have turned out quite differently.
Hill is 26 and Moore is about to be 23. We can play this hypothetical game of put this player here and this player there and imagine what would happen, but the fact of the matter is that Hill is in KC with Mahommes and DJ Moore has Grier/Allen/FA/Rookie throwing him he ball.
Understood. However, 3 years is a big deal. In another 3 years, Moore will be in his receiving prime and should still retain value, whereas Hill will be a declining asset in Dynasty at that point. My point was DJ put up great numbers with those QB's, so he looks to be somewhat QB proof, and the question of him being a stud or just a good WR would probably be put to rest if you paired him with Mahomes, but I understand what you are saying. However, on a points per game basis, Hill was less than 2 PPG better than Moore, despite the much better situation. To get a top 4 pick on top is a no brainer for me, from a Dynasty perspective.
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Re: Tyreek Hill for DJ Moore and 1.04

Postby Kmani6 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:50 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:51 am
smbkrypt24 wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:45 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:19 pm

Considering Moore's numbers, and the fact he is a lot younger than Hill, I tend to disagree. If Moore were playing in KC with Mahomes, and Hill in Carolina with Grier/Allen last year, I think it would have turned out quite differently.
Hill is 26 and Moore is about to be 23. We can play this hypothetical game of put this player here and this player there and imagine what would happen, but the fact of the matter is that Hill is in KC with Mahommes and DJ Moore has Grier/Allen/FA/Rookie throwing him he ball.
Understood. However, 3 years is a big deal. In another 3 years, Moore will be in his receiving prime and should still retain value, whereas Hill will be a declining asset in Dynasty at that point. My point was DJ put up great numbers with those QB's, so he looks to be somewhat QB proof, and the question of him being a stud or just a good WR would probably be put to rest if you paired him with Mahomes, but I understand what you are saying. However, on a points per game basis, Hill was less than 2 PPG better than Moore, despite the much better situation. To get a top 4 pick on top is a no brainer for me, from a Dynasty perspective.

That's because you're comparing the year in which Tyreek Hill was injured for a good part, and Mahomes had his own injuries to deal with. Tyreek Hill in 2018 outscored Moore by 100 points, and roughly 5 PPG, or 25% more points per game, compared with Moore's recent best 2019 season...

Hill is a good bet for more yards, as well as more TDs, and he is tied with Mahomes. I would still take the trade because of the 1.4, but idk why you'd take Moore over Hill straight up.
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10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
2023 Picks: 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd


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