Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

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Allen or Calvin Ridley

Allen
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Ridley
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Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby megager » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:44 pm

Team 1 below.
This is a rebuild team.so I think I'd be ok with Ridley for Allen..should I ask for a price coming back?
I'd be ok do it straight up.

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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:54 pm

I would ask for a late 1st/early 2nd. Allen is a still a top 10 dynasty wr and should be priced as one. I'm probably higher on Ridley then almost anyone, but he is not in Allen's league yet and still has Jones in front of him for at least a few years to come.

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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby megager » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:02 pm

Thanks Gator. 👍

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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby psfox2010 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:09 pm

I agree with Gator. I'd need a decent piece added to Ridley if I'm giving up KA.
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:37 pm

I'd want Ridley + mid/late 1st, but I don't know if you'll be able to get that.
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby Indyfan1985 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:14 pm

I prefer Ridley over Allen actually. I could see Atlanta treating their top 2 WRs like Tampa did with Evans and Godwin last year. Remember that Atlanta lost Sanu and is about to lose Hooper. Those targets will be fed to Julio and Ridley. And Julio will start declining in the next year or so due to age/injuries in my opinion.

Also Ridley is younger than Allen and the Chargers will be losing Rivers.
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby The.Big.Spank » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:53 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:54 pm I would ask for a late 1st/early 2nd. Allen is a still a top 10 dynasty wr and should be priced as one. I'm probably higher on Ridley then almost anyone, but he is not in Allen's league yet and still has Jones in front of him for at least a few years to come.
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby pmart33 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:26 am

I know we think of Allen as having been around for awhile and Ridley as being a young player, but in terms of age there isn't a massive gap between Ridley and Allen. Allen turns 28 this offseason, Ridley will turn 26 during the 2020 season. I'd want at least an early 2nd on top of Allen to move him for Ridley, but you may not get that until we get some clarity on the Chargers QB situation.
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby Goddard » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:53 am

Keenan gets no love on this forum. I don't know how or why 8 people voted for Ridley.

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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby jonf86 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:33 am

Goddard wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:53 am Keenan gets no love on this forum. I don't know how or why 8 people voted for Ridley.
It's a tossup for me.

We're kind of at a cross roads with each player.

We don't know who is going to be the Chargers QB. It remains a possibility that the Chargers keep Henry. Allen's beginning to reach an age that scares away some owners making his trade/perceived value lower.

Ridley is almost 3 years younger. He's locked in with Ryan. It's almost a certainty that the Falcons lose Hooper and Ridley's numbers with Hooper out are quite good. On top of that, the Falcons don't have the cap space to sign a capable replacement.

Last year these two players averaged less than a point per game from each other.

I highly doubt Ridley has the career that Allen has had, but if I'm projecting their futures, I'd need to think long and hard about who will have more value moving forward.
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby krtbuckeye » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:48 am

I would be asking for Ridley/mid 1st but would be willing to work back to a late 2020 1st
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby Golly Dagger » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:38 pm

I personally feel Ridley is just a slightly younger Keenan Allen. I'm really low on Allen, but primarily because he doesn't score touchdowns (albeit is a reception machine) and can go for long stretches without being overly productive. Ridley is in the better offense with no uncertainties at the quarterback position, is younger, and while yes he's behind Julio - I don't really view that as a negative. If Allen has a down year in 2020 due to quarterback woes it's a wasted year on a guy who is already 28. He will of course then, lose value. Ridley, on the other hand, should only get better - and with Hooper gone - targets should go up - along with red-zone targets.

All that being said, I do agree you should try to get another piece added. I'm very doubtful you'd get a mid or late first-round pick, but personally I'd be willing to settle on an early 2nd. If that can't happen, maybe shop him around.
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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby makemeasandwich » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:31 pm

Michael Thomas 19.87
DeAndre Hopkins 19.83
Davante Adams 18.47
Julio Jones 18.2
Tyreek Hill 17.43
Keenan Allen -17.13 (27y.o. 1A WR)
Mike Evans 16.33
Stefon Diggs 15.43
Robert Woods 15.3
Adam Thielen 15.27
Jarvis Landry 14.9
Calvin Ridley -14 (25y.o. 1B WR)

These are a 3 year running average of points per game since ‘17.

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Re: Keenan Allen V Calvin Ridley

Postby megager » Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:06 am

makemeasandwich wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:31 pm Michael Thomas 19.87
DeAndre Hopkins 19.83
Davante Adams 18.47
Julio Jones 18.2
Tyreek Hill 17.43
Keenan Allen -17.13 (27y.o. 1A WR)
Mike Evans 16.33
Stefon Diggs 15.43
Robert Woods 15.3
Adam Thielen 15.27
Jarvis Landry 14.9
Calvin Ridley -14 (25y.o. 1B WR)

These are a 3 year running average of points per game since ‘17.
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