Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

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Engram or Irv Smith/2.07

Evan Engram
15
68%
Irv Smith Jr, 2.07, 4.04
7
32%
 
Total votes: 22

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Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby Seventy5 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:02 pm

Which would you prefer in a 1PPR / SuperFlex (so the 2.07 worth a little more than usual), Evan Engram or Irv Smith Jr, 2.07, 4.04
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 pm

Engram pretty easily for me.

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:51 pm

engram
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby Goddard » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:52 pm

I like Irv and think he has a chance to be a good TE in a year or two, but Engram is still worth much more than him. I'm not sure the 2.07 and a 4th change much.

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby mmass » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:42 pm

engram by a large margin
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby RB6 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:49 pm

Engram hands down.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby Seventy5 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:16 pm

Interesting so far. Comments are strongly in favor of Engram, poll is 5-4 Engram
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby meineymoe » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:59 pm

I am one who voted the Smith side.

I am biased towards getting extra draft picks - though I might counter and try to get a little more back - and also think it's easy enough to go find a serviceable TE. As an Engram owner, you probably know the need for that ability, since he has a propensity for ending up on the IR.

Of course, Kyle Rudolph is holding back Smith's fantasy value, but Rudolph is 30, while Smith is 21, so when he does step in for Rudolph, he'll have plenty of seasons of use left. Also, I like his TD potential, as that is something that has made Rudolph mildly valuable over the years.

Also, as mentioned earlier, Engram's injury history. I don't feel bad about moving that off of my roster.

Good luck!
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Both teams 16 tm 1/3 ppr idp
QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex

Phoenix Park Suns
QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14

Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby Seventy5 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:13 pm

Bit of context: I am the Irv Smith and picks owner, started a rebuild/retooling last year, and current working with:

Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Teddy Bridgewater

Nick Chubb
Todd Gurley

AJ Green
Stefon Diggs
AJ Brown / Corey Davis
Marquise Brown
DeVante Parker / Preston Williams
N’Keal Harry
Mike Williams

Hunter Henry
Gerald Everett
Irv Smith Jr
Tyler Eifert

3-1sts
4-2nds
3-3rds
5-4ths

Not expecting to be competing next year but have enough pieces on both ends of the spectrum to potentially compete sooner than later, as there’s a massive influx in youth about to reload my roster.

Pairing Engram with Hunter Henry could shore up my TEs while still having a lot of picks to work with
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby meineymoe » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:23 pm

Seventy5 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:13 pm
Pairing Engram with Hunter Henry could shore up my TEs while still having a lot of picks to work with
As long as they aren't both out injured at the same time! :twisted:

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby Seventy5 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:41 pm

meineymoe wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:23 pm
Seventy5 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:13 pm
Pairing Engram with Hunter Henry could shore up my TEs while still having a lot of picks to work with
As long as they aren't both out injured at the same time! :twisted:

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Part of why I don’t want only one. I figure I can play matchups with their injuries/missed weeks :lol:
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby M-Dub » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:05 pm

Never been a fan of Engram and I like Irv long term, but I have to concede the value is on the Engram side here. I’d probably make the trade, but only with the intention of flipping Engram for more at a later date.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Engram or Irv Smith/2.07/4.04

Postby DynastyDabbler » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:45 am

Seventy5 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:41 pm
meineymoe wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:23 pm
Seventy5 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:13 pm
Pairing Engram with Hunter Henry could shore up my TEs while still having a lot of picks to work with
As long as they aren't both out injured at the same time! :twisted:

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Part of why I don’t want only one. I figure I can play matchups with their injuries/missed weeks :lol:
Unless they're hurt at the same time.like last season. I'd rather chance it with Henry and have Irv as a backup. I think he takes a step forward this year. He's young, give him some time to develop.
10 team half-ppr 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2FLX 3IDP
QB: J. Burrow, J. Goff
RB: J. Mixon, K. Walker, T. Etienne, A. Ekeler, Z. Charbonet, K. Miller, T. Bigsby, J. Warren,
WR: J. Chase, D.J. Moore, D.K. Metcalf, D. Smith, J. Smith-Njigba, P. Nacua, J. Meyers, T. Palmer,
TE: T. Kelce, T. McBride, C. Okonkwo


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