Mixon (Update in first post)
Mixon (Update in first post)
So here we go, first awful trade offer of the year for team 2.
Give: Mixon
Get: Breida, Tevin, Fuller
I've a solid team with Mixon Ekeler and Henry at RB but always looking for value. Owner has picks 5 and 6 (not as sold on this year's class but maybe I'm wrong) and some solid players (Golladay, JJacobs, Engram) along with some could be (Guice, Love, Gallup) but figure none of these combinations really make my team better than keeping Mixon.
Thoughts?
Update: I rejected. Thought about countering for Jacobs+1st (Jacobs not much use in passing game, I need more than just Jacobs but I get why many like him). Got this back as a response:
"Haha I could send you 2 first rounders and you wouldn’t accept a trade with me. It’s a shame."
Personally, I never feel that way during negotiations. I just figure we value players differently, and I usually say that to offers that seem crazy afield. Maybe I will send something back over, just have to figure out what that something will be.
Give: Mixon
Get: Breida, Tevin, Fuller
I've a solid team with Mixon Ekeler and Henry at RB but always looking for value. Owner has picks 5 and 6 (not as sold on this year's class but maybe I'm wrong) and some solid players (Golladay, JJacobs, Engram) along with some could be (Guice, Love, Gallup) but figure none of these combinations really make my team better than keeping Mixon.
Thoughts?
Update: I rejected. Thought about countering for Jacobs+1st (Jacobs not much use in passing game, I need more than just Jacobs but I get why many like him). Got this back as a response:
"Haha I could send you 2 first rounders and you wouldn’t accept a trade with me. It’s a shame."
Personally, I never feel that way during negotiations. I just figure we value players differently, and I usually say that to offers that seem crazy afield. Maybe I will send something back over, just have to figure out what that something will be.
Last edited by saw061600 on Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:05 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Mixon
Keep Mixon.
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Re: Mixon
I’ve been trying to get Mixon anywhere, I’d keep him here and not counter.
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Re: Mixon
Easily Mixon.
Re: Mixon
That’s basically a 2nd and two 3rds for Mixon. Just awful.
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Re: Mixon
Ewwww. That's a decline with no counter right there.
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Re: Mixon
I wasn't going to accept, more just wondering if there's a counter to be made. I got Mixon and Diggs from another owner for Melvin Gordon and some change last year; not looking to sell low by any means lol.
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Re: Mixon
Not sure the other owner would do it, but I would definitely consider Jacobs and one of those picks for Mixon.
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RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Walker, J Cook, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
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TE: Kittle, Goedert, Henry
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RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
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TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
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TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
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QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
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Re: Mixon
Bro, keep Mixon. People love him after the 2nd half of 2019. Plus, people are excited about Joe Burrow. I got a lions share of a trade with him. You can do better I think.
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QB: Russell Wilson, Tua, Cam
RB: Josh Jacobs, D Singletary, C Carson, R Penny, D Washington, B Love, A Gibson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Scary Terry McLaurin, C Kupp, A Thielen, M Gallup, D Slayton, Aiyuk, T Higgins, Shenault, M Hardman, B Cooks, R Higgins, J Reynolds, H Butler, S Sims, K Harmon
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Re: Mixon
If that was the starting offer, I doubt there's a counter here. I'm not even that high on Mixon, but that's pretty awful.
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Re: Mixon
I updated the original with an email. I think I'd want Jacobs and a first personally. At work, no access to my data but I think Jacobs use in passing game was pretty sparse compared with Mixon but that could just be biased perception.
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Re: Mixon
Agree. I'd definitely want at least a 1st added.
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Re: Mixon
x2WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:33 amIf that was the starting offer, I doubt there's a counter here. I'm not even that high on Mixon, but that's pretty awful.
Sometimes you just have to accept that you value players differently (as you mentioned in your post)
Based on his initial offer & tone in follow up, sounds like it'll be difficult to get a deal done with this owner
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