Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

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Keenan Allen
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DJ Moore
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Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Slackalacker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:41 am

Team 1

Got the following offer:

Give: DJ Moore
Get: Keenan Allen

Am I crazy that I don’t want to take this deal? Allen is 5 years older, just lost his QB, and DJ averaged just 1pt per game less than Allen last year with much less talent at QB. To top it all off I already have Nuk and Adams who are getting up there in age. I’m not necessarily in win now mode because I feel I have a good spread of talent and youth.

Let me know who you’d rather have, and what you would need added to Keenan if anything to take the deal.
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Zacsby » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:49 am

I'd hold DJM here. Especially with Nuk, Adams and TY not getting any younger
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby honcho55 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:54 am

I’d be surprised if Allen gets 1/10 votes in this forum. And I’d agree

Edit: forgot the second part of the question. I’d want a late 1st 2020 or a future 1st or so. Just don’t see the benefit otherwise
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Golly Dagger » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:56 am

Not crazy at all. Moore > Allen and it's not particularly close to me - for many of the reasons you already mentioned.

Not sure what kind of + I'd want to get that done.
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Goddard » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:04 am

I know people hate Keenan and many love Moore and the hype is there...so I'd take Moore just based on current value. But wouldn't be surprised at all if Allen helped you more over the next 4-5 seasons.

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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Big Al » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:09 am

DJ Moore, high ceiling and has age on his side.

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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:20 am

Moore. He is younger, looks the part and is more valuable than Allen.

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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:24 am

Personally I value Allen > Moore. However, the hype on Moore is insane right now, so I'd keep Moore if you think you can sell for a better deal to another owner.
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Slackalacker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:18 pm

Thanks guys, it seems like most people are pretty in line with how I’m thinking. I just hope the DJM hype doesn’t turn into another Juju situation, granted the chips aren’t falling the same way that they did for Juju.
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby PBFalcon » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:45 pm

Just to add a contrarion opinion here. I think I would want DJ if I were you...but ifnibwere playing to win now I would want KA if someone like Winston or Stafford ended up there. If KA had a gunslinger QB he would be a beast. He is big enough for redzone work.
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby abloom » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:54 pm

Give me Keenan here. I get the age argument but Allen isnlt that old. I also think that rivers wasn't great last year. I think with a better QB, Allen could put up better numbers. For right now given me Allen, in a couple years give me Moore.
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Zacsby » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:56 pm

abloom wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:54 pm Give me Keenan here. I get the age argument but Allen isnlt that old. I also think that rivers wasn't great last year. I think with a better QB, Allen could put up better numbers. For right now given me Allen, in a couple years give me Moore.
Would you be excited about Keenan's prospects with Tyrod Taylor? Lol
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby abloom » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:41 pm

Zacsby wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:56 pm
abloom wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:54 pm Give me Keenan here. I get the age argument but Allen isnlt that old. I also think that rivers wasn't great last year. I think with a better QB, Allen could put up better numbers. For right now given me Allen, in a couple years give me Moore.
Would you be excited about Keenan's prospects with Tyrod Taylor? Lol
No, but if they go tyrod I think it's likely they have a rookie they develop and in 2021 he's all set. Who's Moore's QB exactly?
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby Zacsby » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:13 pm

abloom wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:41 pm No, but if they go tyrod I think it's likely they have a rookie they develop and in 2021 he's all set. Who's Moore's QB exactly?
He was consistent without a good one, and he's young so I'm less worried about him. As bad as Rivers was, I actually think Tyrod is a pretty big downgrade for fantasy purposes. And Keenan's got like another 2 years before he starts to lose value pretty much no matter how he's performing. Are they even gonna be good ones? Idk but it def seems more risky than DJM.
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Re: Keenan Allen vs DJ Moore

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:31 pm

Easily Moore. He is way younger, more explosive, and can play all over the field. Production was basically the same last year. I don't see any advantage to Allen. In 3 years Moore will be entering his prime and Allen will be in his early 30's. Easy call.

What I'd want on top? A mid first. People may think that's ridiculous, but that's what I'd want to lose 5 years on a player with basically the same production.
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