Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

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Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Leeboy86 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:05 am

Hi guys,

I've got an owner in my league interested in Derrius Guice for the team in my signature.

He's offered the 1.13 (a compensatory pick awarded to the winner of our consolation bracket) for Guice.

Would you trade him for this?

I love the talent but his injury history does concern me slightly.

FYI - This owner also has the 1.06 and 1.11 in the draft.
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:39 am

I like Guice. I like his talent and I think he's the #1 in Washington next year. I'm higher on him than most, so for me, I'm not selling him for a late first. I know a lot of people have soured on him with his injuries the past couple of years, but I'm personally not that concerned with them. Look at LF, he had some early injury issues and now look at him. Guice is still incredibly young.

So for me, I'm holding him here.
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RB - Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, Derrius Guice, Raheem Mostert, Damien Harris
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby dawgDYNASTY » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:31 am

I think a late first is fair, if you want to sell him I don't think you can expect much else with how his career had gone. That's probably one of the better prices you'll get, although I'd probably try to get the 1.11.

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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:40 am

for your team i hold guice. you have poor rb depth and dont need another WR with a late first.
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:44 am

Hold Guice based on your build and hope he stays healthy. He is very talented when on the field.
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Zacsby » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:48 am

I would hold Guice for that price, especially with your build. Still has so much potential. The injuries are a bummer but no reason he cant put them behind him the same way Cook or Fournette did.
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:51 am

I'd rather have Guice than 11 or 13.
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Goddard » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:02 am

I might move him for the 1.06, but I doubt anyone's paying that for him right now.

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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:05 am

11 is probably fair value for him and comes down to how you feel about him
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:30 am

It's a fair offer, but since he came to you for Guice, I'd bet that he'd accept a counter of Guice for the 1.11 instead.
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Paul717 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:56 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:30 am
It's a fair offer, but since he came to you for Guice, I'd bet that he'd accept a counter of Guice for the 1.11 instead.
This ^ x 2. If the OP is on the fence about the trade and even considering it slightly, ask about the 1.11. It is a very reasonable counter and the worst he can say is no. It would not be the sort of counter that ends the conversation.
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby mild » Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:12 pm

I'd ask for the 1.06.

I think Guice is barely behind that first wave of RB's. I'd prefer him over Akers and CEH for sure.

As others have said, he's just had terrible luck. There is a reasonable chance that Washington returns to passing for a functional team this year under Riverboat Ron (though you'll probably have to squint a bit)

It's also more than fair to go back to the guy and say "I know that you're trying to buy low, but frankly, Guice is worth the 1.06 to me and I'll gladly hold him to wait for his value to rebound as I think he has that kind of talent"
- even if this *is* just posturing, this guy is the buyer that's getting in touch, so you can drive the bargaining table.

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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Leeboy86 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:28 am

I'm contemplating countering with my 2.01 and Derrius Guice for his 1.06.

What are your thoughts on this as an offer?
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:26 am

Leeboy86 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:28 am
I'm contemplating countering with my 2.01 and Derrius Guice for his 1.06.

What are your thoughts on this as an offer?
Yuck. Much rather have Guice and the early second.
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QB - Patrick Mahomes
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, Derrius Guice, Raheem Mostert, Damien Harris
WR - Michael Thomas, DeAndre Hopkins, Chris Godwin, Robert Woods, Anthony Miller
TE - George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki
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DL - DeForest Buckner, Cameron Heyward
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Re: Derrius Guice or 2020 1st?!

Postby Favrezilla » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:35 am

zero chance i pay a high-mid first for Guice if hes available, id probably be iffy on sending a late first, i love Guice but i just dont trust his health or WAS. could be a good time to buy low if you can...

i wouldnt sell him for a 2nd either so thats a tough spot, hes definitely not as good a prospect at this point as picks 1-7 in SF though (maybe more?)
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