Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
Getting the 1.08 back in offer #2 is pretty solid. If you think Cooks bounces back for years to come however, I would stick with offer #1.
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
I'd take the first offer for sure. I'd probably take both offers, but I think the first offer is better value.
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
id offer robinson cooks 2021 1st for just hill and see if that does it and keep your 1.04 and he keeps his 1.08.
add a 2nd or something if needed
add a 2nd or something if needed
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
I actually really like thatBigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:53 am id offer robinson cooks 2021 1st for just hill and see if that does it and keep your 1.04 and he keeps his 1.08.
add a 2nd or something if needed
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
i like offer 1 a lot.
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
Upside with Hill all the way
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
I'll probably be in the minority, but I don't like either offer for you.
I'm higher on Robinson than most, and while Hill is a true stud (and game-breaker), he obviously comes with a lot of baggage. Plus, not sure most people realize this, but Robinson is only 7 months older than Hill.
1.04 is also a premium pick in this year's draft - so I wouldn't add him to Robinson to upgrade to Hill, let alone adding another 2nd.
I'm higher on Robinson than most, and while Hill is a true stud (and game-breaker), he obviously comes with a lot of baggage. Plus, not sure most people realize this, but Robinson is only 7 months older than Hill.
1.04 is also a premium pick in this year's draft - so I wouldn't add him to Robinson to upgrade to Hill, let alone adding another 2nd.
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
I think I agree.kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:39 pm I'll probably be in the minority, but I don't like either offer for you.
I'm higher on Robinson than most, and while Hill is a true stud (and game-breaker), he obviously comes with a lot of baggage. Plus, not sure most people realize this, but Robinson is only 7 months older than Hill.
1.04 is also a premium pick in this year's draft - so I wouldn't add him to Robinson to upgrade to Hill, let alone adding another 2nd.
ARob went for 98-1147-7 this year. That's better than Hill has done 2 of the last 3 years, even if we project Hill out to 16 games for this year.
The only year Hill outscored that was the year Mahomes threw for 5100/50, which he may never do again.
And as you mentioned, despite being in the league and relevant much longer ARob is roughly the same age as Hill. People talk about upside with Hill but it seems like he needs an all-time great QB season to be better than ARob was with a horrible QB throwing him the ball. Given that ARob was just WR8 with Mitch Trubisky as his QB, what is his upside if he gets even competent QB play some time in the next 5 years.
I also think ARob's game will age better than Hill's, who is so reliant on explosiveness that will ultimately fade with age.
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
To add to this discussion, I fully expect the Bears to upgrade from Trubisky this season, despite what they are saying:Vcize wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:59 pmI think I agree.kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:39 pm I'll probably be in the minority, but I don't like either offer for you.
I'm higher on Robinson than most, and while Hill is a true stud (and game-breaker), he obviously comes with a lot of baggage. Plus, not sure most people realize this, but Robinson is only 7 months older than Hill.
1.04 is also a premium pick in this year's draft - so I wouldn't add him to Robinson to upgrade to Hill, let alone adding another 2nd.
ARob went for 98-1147-7 this year. That's better than Hill has done 2 of the last 3 years, even if we project Hill out to 16 games for this year.
The only year Hill outscored that was the year Mahomes threw for 5100/50, which he may never do again.
And as you mentioned, despite being in the league and relevant much longer ARob is roughly the same age as Hill. People talk about upside with Hill but it seems like he needs an all-time great QB season to be better than ARob was with a horrible QB throwing him the ball. Given that ARob was just WR8 with Mitch Trubisky as his QB, what is his upside if he gets even competent QB play some time in the next 5 years.
I also think ARob's game will age better than Hill's, who is so reliant on explosiveness that will ultimately fade with age.
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
I'd take the Hill side on both offers
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Re: Allen Robinson Vs Tyreek Hill
Hill for both offers.
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