In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

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In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby WOATjohn » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:12 am

I posted earlier about a Juju trade but now I hve been approached by someone wanting Engram.
I am looking to fully compete in 2021.

Nearing the end of a PPR rebuild
I have the 1.01, 1.05, 1.11 and 2.01, 3.01, 3.03, 3.06, 4.01
My cores are:
QB: Baker, Jimmy G
RBs: Gurley, J Hill, Guice, Samuels
WRs: Juju, Odell, AJ Brown, Deebo, Slayton, A Miller, D Johnson, P Campbell, Harry, Renfrow and Higgins
TE: Engram, Hock, Knox, Sternberger

The guy that approached me has Mack and Conner that he’s really trying to unload. He said that he’s willing to trade picks too (he has 1.03, 1.08, 2.03 and 2.07) he also has Golladay and Evans

What would be a fair initial proposal?
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:16 am

I would want Golladay and a pick, or the 1.03 in a rebuild. This is probably steep, but elite TEs (when healthy) are very tough to find and are pricey.

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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby jwb32 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:26 am

It would take an overpay to move off Engram. Something like Engram+3.01+3.03 for Golladay or 1.03.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby WOATjohn » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:28 am

Gator Sens wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:16 am I would want Golladay and a pick, or the 1.03 in a rebuild. This is probably steep, but elite TEs (when healthy) are very tough to find and are pricey.
And he is really high on engram (has been approaching me for awhile).
Would something like Odell and Engram for Golladay, 1.03 be crazy? Or Odell and Engram for Evans and 1.08?
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:12 pm

brutuswins wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:28 am
Gator Sens wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:16 am I would want Golladay and a pick, or the 1.03 in a rebuild. This is probably steep, but elite TEs (when healthy) are very tough to find and are pricey.
And he is really high on engram (has been approaching me for awhile).
Would something like Odell and Engram for Golladay, 1.03 be crazy? Or Odell and Engram for Evans and 1.08?
I would start with Engram and a 2nd or 3rd for Golladay + the 1.03 and see where that gets you.

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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby WOATjohn » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:26 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:12 pm
brutuswins wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:28 am
Gator Sens wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:16 am I would want Golladay and a pick, or the 1.03 in a rebuild. This is probably steep, but elite TEs (when healthy) are very tough to find and are pricey.
And he is really high on engram (has been approaching me for awhile).
Would something like Odell and Engram for Golladay, 1.03 be crazy? Or Odell and Engram for Evans and 1.08?
I would start with Engram and a 2nd or 3rd for Golladay + the 1.03 and see where that gets you.
He declined my offer of Engram and Odell for Golladay and 1.03 and says that he thinks he’s holding onto the 1.03.
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby sloth8u » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:00 am

I would not trade engram or hock. sometimes you just gotta settle with your guys or you will constantly be chasing players to make you competitive. this is one of those instances imo.

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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby ravn88 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:08 am

I would prolly keep him.

If you can get some of these deals then you should take it, Because I would not pay Golladay straight up for him.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:27 am

As far as I can tell, this is not a TE premium league, correct?

I'd easily take Golladay alone over Engram. I'd take the 1.03 over Engram as well pretty easily. I don't think you will get either unless you are adding another pretty solid piece to Engram.

If I was you, I'd probably just hang on to Engram, but if he's really high on Engram, then I don't see a problem moving him as long as you can get a good deal.

Who are his TE's? I'd probably want his 1.08 and a good TE to move Engram here. Depends on who he has at TE though.
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2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby briank » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:56 am

brutuswins wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:12 am I posted earlier about a Juju trade but now I hve been approached by someone wanting Engram.
I am looking to fully compete in 2021.

Nearing the end of a PPR rebuild
I have the 1.01, 1.05, 1.11 and 2.01, 3.01, 3.03, 3.06, 4.01
My cores are:
QB: Baker, Jimmy G
RBs: Gurley, J Hill, Guice, Samuels
WRs: Juju, Odell, AJ Brown, Deebo, Slayton, A Miller, D Johnson, P Campbell, Harry, Renfrow and Higgins
TE: Engram, Hock, Knox, Sternberger

The guy that approached me has Mack and Conner that he’s really trying to unload. He said that he’s willing to trade picks too (he has 1.03, 1.08, 2.03 and 2.07) he also has Golladay and Evans

What would be a fair initial proposal?
First, I see no reason to be shooting for 2021. Your team can compete this year IMO. I would at least go into the season trying to compete. If you're falling out of contention, I'd look to trade Gurley.

Next, I don't see why you would want to trade Engram in a rebuild or otherwise, especially trading him low.

Last, everyone has a price. If you can get the 1.03 or Evans I'd jump on that. I'd consider Golladay as well. I wouldn't touch Mack or Conner here.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby Goddard » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:02 am

I didn't realize so many people were this high on Engram. You can definitely use some RB help, so I'd try to move him for Conner. Since the other owner is really high on Engram, ask for the 1.08 on top (which you probably won't get) and settle for the 2.03.

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Postby briank » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:01 pm

Goddard wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:02 am I didn't realize so many people were this high on Engram. You can definitely use some RB help, so I'd try to move him for Conner. Since the other owner is really high on Engram, ask for the 1.08 on top (which you probably won't get) and settle for the 2.03.
Man, I wouldn't do that. I think there's a good chance they draft a significant RB to replace Conner who can't seem to stay on the field. Maybe after the draft.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
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Re: In a rebuild what do you do with Engram?

Postby WOATjohn » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:46 pm

I tried getting his 1.03 for engram and 2.01 but he wouldn't. I have decided that unless I can get the 1.03 in return, I am holding Engram. I still view him as a top 4 TE.
I have no interest in trading Engram for a Conner or Mack package
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10


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