Trading Mahomes in SF

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby CGW » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:09 am

Dynos wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:16 am I dont get why people want evans, hes so up and down. Keep mahomes
Not to go on a tangent, but Mike Evans is the definition of consistency at the WR position. He scores 10+ points 77% of the time(69/90 games). For comparison, Nuk scores 10+ at a 79% clip (87/110). Sure he has some duds, but which WR doesn't? They can't throw themselves the ball.

Id have a hard time trading mahommes even for Evans and 1.2. Maybe Goff+Evans+1.02.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:25 pm

Trading him is a mistake, especially if you are the one initiating talks which will end up driving down your potential return most of the time. You absolutely need to be getting a QB in return as part of the package, and I would not even consider an offer that didn't inclue one of: Lamar, Watson, Wilson, Kyler, Wentz, Burrow/1.01, maybe Dak. I know you were looking for replies telling you deals to make, but I just can't recommend trading Mahomes in a SF/2QB league in any situation barring you getting an absolutely overwhelming offer.

I traded Wilson + DJ Moore + Kittle for Mahomes in a 14 team SF/TE Premium league before the season opened, and I am still happy I did even though those 3 guys obviously had really good years. Mahomes is just special and in a class by himself, you don't give that up.

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby briank » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:41 pm

Dynos wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:16 am I dont get why people want evans, hes so up and down. Keep mahomes
I want anyone and everyone who's upside is THE WR1.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby briank » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:43 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:52 am If you're not getting a QB in return on top of players like Evans or Moore, there's really no point in trading him. That would leave you with Ben and Tannehill at QB in a SF. That's not a spot I'd want to be in, even if you're drafting Burrow at 1.01.
Unless your rookie big board is:

1.01 Burrow
1.02 Tua
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby briank » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:45 pm

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:08 am I would need at least the equivalent of 5 firsts in value, 6 for me to feel comfortable selling mahomes
That's kind of broad. I'd argue that the 1.02 is worth 2 random 1sts. I'd argue Moore is worth 2 random 1sts. I'd argue DK is worth a mid 1st...
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby mild » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:57 pm

cbtaylor23 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:52 am He went for R. Wilson, Deebo, and 1.09 in my SF league. Seems like a steal, but maybe it's close value wise.
Lol nope, that's not close. Hats off to the new Mahomes owner, that's daylight robbery.

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:01 pm

mild wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:57 pm
cbtaylor23 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:52 am He went for R. Wilson, Deebo, and 1.09 in my SF league. Seems like a steal, but maybe it's close value wise.
Lol nope, that's not close. Hats off to the new Mahomes owner, that's daylight robbery.
I would pay that for Mahomes in 1QB, in SF that's absolute robbery.

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby jonesmaster » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:45 pm

In my league Mahomes went for Elliot, 2.05 and Big Ben
8-team SF / 0.5 PPR / TE (Full PPR) Scoring: 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2FLX, 1 SFLX, 1TE, 1D/ST, K (Only relevant players listed)

QB: Kyler , Dak , R. Wilson, Dimes, Kenny P
RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
TE: Andrews , Njoku, LaPorta, Washington, Mayer
D/ST: Bills / Philly

Picks : 2024: 3 firsts; 2025: 3 firsts; 2026: 4 firsts

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby srlarson » Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:09 am

first advise - don't trade him.......

gotta be steep...get a QB back (future trade value at least) then I like Deebo from his assets long term....
so a QB + 3 or 4 pieces with 1st round equivalent.
Empire 10 team 30man rosters QB, 2rb, 3Wr, TE, 2F, K (.5ppr RB's, ppr WR/TE)
redraft coming


Empire 12 team SF 30man rosters - QB, 2rb, 2wr, te, sf, Rb/Wr/Te flex, 2Rb/Wr Flex
(rb .5ppr, wr 1ppr, TE 1.5ppr) -
QB - Prescott, Cousins, M Jones, C. Rush
RB - JT, Chubb, J Cook, Hunt, Penny, Patterson, Foreman, Davis-Price, Henderson, Patterson
WR - Diggs, M Thomas, Gallup, K Phillips, Goodwin, Hollins, C Moore, raymond, reynolds, D robinson, J Watson
TE - Ertz, Brate, McBride, Akins, Gray
1.05,2.05,3.05,4.05

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:48 am

You're going about this all wrong. Post on your league message board/group chat that you are willing to move Mahomes for the right offer and see what offers you get.

I wouldn't move him for less than Evans, Moore, Deebo, 1.02, 1.10
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens

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Re: Trading Mahomes in SF

Postby diamonddave » Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:31 am

def would NOT be trading pat but if you do, regardless of whether you draft burrow to replace pat in your lineup, i would think you need to be getting a qb1 back as the starting point of the trade, for value's sake. starting qbs are so rare and stud ones even more so...such a premium in SF
12-team, PPR, 2QB, IDP League--Start 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 W/R/T, 2D, 1LB, 1DL, 1DB

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
LB: Roquan Smith, CJ Mosley, Terrel Bernard Ernest Jones, Quincy Williams
DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
DB: Jason Pinnock


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