Gap between Mixon and Zeke in 2QB

[NoNoNav]

A couple of my thoughts:

1. Mixon is boosted due to Burrow
2. Zeke takes a slight hit with a new coach and the uncertainty that comes with it
3. Zeke's mileage (Not a big fan of this point, but listing for arguments sake)

What do you see as the gap in 2QB? I was able to snag Mixon in the 5th in our startup, whereas Zeke went in the 1st.

What do you think?

[Gator Sens]

I would guess the Zeke owner would want a 1st on top of Mixon. Not sure I would pay that because of Mixon's workload the last couple of seasons. Outside of a change in Cincinnati, these are two of the safest workload backs in my opinion. Hard to argue against Zeke's fantasy success however.

[LMS123]

I agree probably a first but I don’t think I would trade my Mixon and a first for Zeke. I think with the bengals 1st round O-Lineman back next year and a new QB at the helm, I think Mixon could end up being a better fantasy player than Zeke in a year or 2; but that’s probably not a common opinion

[kmbryant09]

Call me crazy but give me Mixon over Zeke straight up.

We're valuing these guys on what they'll do moving forward, not what they've done in the past...

[BucFanJKE]

Zeke owner would probably want a first. Mixon owner probably wouldnt want to add more than a late second (if anything).

[Indyfan1985]

Call me crazy but give me Mixon over Zeke straight up.

We're valuing these guys on what they'll do moving forward, not what they've done in the past...

Agreed. Mixon is right on par with Zeke especially with an improved OL in Cincy and a much better QB.

[Tripwired]

I agree with the last few above. I like Mixon as much as I like Zeke right now. I would guess the market would demand a late first to grab Zeke in most cases. I'd probably lean Mixon if it were me. He looks more eclectic than Zeke, and he's a year younger. Plus, McCarthy has a tendency to get pass happy in his scheme. At least in the past...

[FantasyFoosball]

Lol. I love Mixon as much as the next guy, but there's no chance that I take him straight up over Zeke. That's crazy talk.

There's still a gap there between the two, although it's a small one, but something needs to be added to Mixon. Zeke owner would probably want a first to move down to Mixon. I'd be willing to add a 2nd to Mixon to get Zeke.

[honcho55]

I have Zeke in a 14 man 6pt passing TD league, and mixon in a SF league, for reference

I’m not mad if someone has mixon ahead of Zeke, but I certainly don’t. I feel like zeke is the number one bet at RB for rock solid RB1 production. Can name a handful that have higher upside but I think Zeke is safe as safe gets.

It would take mixon and 1.07 to get me thinking, in 2QB. In my SF league I happen to have mixon and 1.07, think I’d want something small back with Zeke, maybe a 2.

[BucBuc]

I'm in agreement with mixon over Zeke ...I feel he has more tread and but no denying Zeke is a beast....

[kmbryant09]

Lol. I love Mixon as much as the next guy, but there's no chance that I take him straight up over Zeke. That's crazy talk.

Nobody is arguing who has been the better, more consistent fantasy asset over the last few years - that part is not debatable.

What is debatable, is what type of future production are we going to get out of them and for how long?

Mixon is a fully year younger than Elliott, and has far fewer wear & tear - Mixon has 800 career NFL touches compared to 1,400 for Elliott. That's nearly 2 full seasons' worth of treat left of Mixon's tires. And let's be honest, Zeke doesn't conduct himself as a player who's going to take immaculate care of his body and put together a long, healthy career.

For those reasons, I think it's very likely that we get MORE productive seasons out of Mixon than we do of Zeke moving forward.

Now about the actual production. Mixon's situation is trending up - with a QB upgrade in Burrow, the return of a few healthy OLineman, and AJ Green (most likely). Mixon was finally utilized as a true 3-down back over the 2nd half of the season, and he delivered some true bell-cow like games.

Meanwhile, Zeke's situation is a bit more murky - a new Head Coach who has a track record of abandoning the run (at least not committing to it as much as Garrett did). And while he's had the benefit of running behind arguably the league's most dominant OLine over the past 4 seasons, that doesn't figure to be the case moving forward. T. Smith is a shell of his former self, and the rest of the line is getting older and / or battling some injuries.

[bjd5211]

At least a mid 1st for me.

Zeke is my #3 overall RB

My rankings right now would be

1 Barkley
2 CMC

3 Zeke
4 Kamara

5 Jacobs
6 Chubb
7 Henry
8 Dalvin
9 Jones
10 Mixon

[FantasyFoosball]

Lol. I love Mixon as much as the next guy, but there's no chance that I take him straight up over Zeke. That's crazy talk.

Nobody is arguing who has been the better, more consistent fantasy asset over the last few years - that part is not debatable.

What is debatable, is what type of future production are we going to get out of them and for how long?

Mixon is a fully year younger than Elliott, and has far fewer wear & tear - Mixon has 800 career NFL touches compared to 1,400 for Elliott. That's nearly 2 full seasons' worth of treat left of Mixon's tires. And let's be honest, Zeke doesn't conduct himself as a player who's going to take immaculate care of his body and put together a long, healthy career.

For those reasons, I think it's very likely that we get MORE productive seasons out of Mixon than we do of Zeke moving forward.

Now about the actual production. Mixon's situation is trending up - with a QB upgrade in Burrow, the return of a few healthy OLineman, and AJ Green (most likely). Mixon was finally utilized as a true 3-down back over the 2nd half of the season, and he delivered some true bell-cow like games.

Meanwhile, Zeke's situation is a bit more murky - a new Head Coach who has a track record of abandoning the run (at least not committing to it as much as Garrett did). And while he's had the benefit of running behind arguably the league's most dominant OLine over the past 4 seasons, that doesn't figure to be the case moving forward. T. Smith is a shell of his former self, and the rest of the line is getting older and / or battling some injuries.

Lol. Okay.

You’re putting way too much stock into trivial issues. But hey, good luck.

[kmbryant09]

Lol. I love Mixon as much as the next guy, but there's no chance that I take him straight up over Zeke. That's crazy talk.

Nobody is arguing who has been the better, more consistent fantasy asset over the last few years - that part is not debatable.

What is debatable, is what type of future production are we going to get out of them and for how long?

Mixon is a fully year younger than Elliott, and has far fewer wear & tear - Mixon has 800 career NFL touches compared to 1,400 for Elliott. That's nearly 2 full seasons' worth of treat left of Mixon's tires. And let's be honest, Zeke doesn't conduct himself as a player who's going to take immaculate care of his body and put together a long, healthy career.

For those reasons, I think it's very likely that we get MORE productive seasons out of Mixon than we do of Zeke moving forward.

Now about the actual production. Mixon's situation is trending up - with a QB upgrade in Burrow, the return of a few healthy OLineman, and AJ Green (most likely). Mixon was finally utilized as a true 3-down back over the 2nd half of the season, and he delivered some true bell-cow like games.

Meanwhile, Zeke's situation is a bit more murky - a new Head Coach who has a track record of abandoning the run (at least not committing to it as much as Garrett did). And while he's had the benefit of running behind arguably the league's most dominant OLine over the past 4 seasons, that doesn't figure to be the case moving forward. T. Smith is a shell of his former self, and the rest of the line is getting older and / or battling some injuries.

Lol. Okay.

You’re putting way too much stock into trivial issues. But hey, good luck.

Trivial issues like career touches for an RB and quality of their supporting cast???

[FantasyFoosball]

Nobody is arguing who has been the better, more consistent fantasy asset over the last few years - that part is not debatable.

What is debatable, is what type of future production are we going to get out of them and for how long?

Mixon is a fully year younger than Elliott, and has far fewer wear & tear - Mixon has 800 career NFL touches compared to 1,400 for Elliott. That's nearly 2 full seasons' worth of treat left of Mixon's tires. And let's be honest, Zeke doesn't conduct himself as a player who's going to take immaculate care of his body and put together a long, healthy career.

For those reasons, I think it's very likely that we get MORE productive seasons out of Mixon than we do of Zeke moving forward.

Now about the actual production. Mixon's situation is trending up - with a QB upgrade in Burrow, the return of a few healthy OLineman, and AJ Green (most likely). Mixon was finally utilized as a true 3-down back over the 2nd half of the season, and he delivered some true bell-cow like games.

Meanwhile, Zeke's situation is a bit more murky - a new Head Coach who has a track record of abandoning the run (at least not committing to it as much as Garrett did). And while he's had the benefit of running behind arguably the league's most dominant OLine over the past 4 seasons, that doesn't figure to be the case moving forward. T. Smith is a shell of his former self, and the rest of the line is getting older and / or battling some injuries.

Lol. Okay.

You’re putting way too much stock into trivial issues. But hey, good luck.

Trivial issues like career touches for an RB and quality of their supporting cast???

Yes. Exactly that.

Mixon is literally one year younger than Zeke, who is only 24. I have zero concern about career touches for a 24 year old RB. That makes no sense. Now if you want to talk about his career touches when he's 28, then sure, let's talk about it. But not when he's basically the same age as Mixon and they are both young still.

You are putting way too much stock into supporting cast as well. CMC, Nick Chubb, Barkley, LF, all these guys played on teams that were terrible this year and didn't make the playoffs. I'd argue they all had worse supporting casts than Zeke and yet they still put up big numbers. Why? Cause they are talented.