16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

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16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby Tripwired » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:29 pm

Wanting some advice for the draft and overall team build strategy. I've never done a dynasty SF, much less a 16 teamer. I've done SF in a10tm redraft format only. I know most people target QBs earlier than a 1QB league, but being a 16 teamer how should that effect my strategy? I have the 1.07 slot in the draft. It's a snake style order. Also, I've never done a TE premium so any advice will be appreciated. Also, it's PPR. Roster requirements are:
QB 1
RB 2
WR 2
TE 1
WRT FLEX 2
SF 1
DST 1
K 1
Keep 30 players
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:43 pm

Based on the large team format and settings, I think you need 2 QBs and TE by round 4. You may lose some top ene positional talent, but I think it may help you in the long run to have good options at QB and TE.

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby repkllrs » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:12 pm

There are enough second tier TEs that you aren’t forced to overdraft, but there will not be enough QBs to go around. 2 of my first 3 picks would definitely be QB
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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby dark_knite03 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:42 am

Gator Sens wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:43 pm Based on the large team format and settings, I think you need 2 QBs and TE by round 4. You may lose some top ene positional talent, but I think it may help you in the long run to have good options at QB and TE.

This^^I would try to target younger players too. So leave Kelce and ertz for someone else.
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
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QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
Godwin, DJM , JJ,Kenaan, AJB, Lockett, Austin, Palmer, Boutte
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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby ArrylT » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:12 am

Same advice as any draft - go in with a plan rather than winging it - especially in a premium format & be prepared to make deviations while staying within the general scheme.

By the time your 2nd pick comes around you should have a sense of how quickly QBs & TEs will come off the board and use that knowledge without drastically altering how you wanted to build your team. IE if you were going in with a Zero RB approach, don't decide to suddenly take RB/RB/RB because everyone else is ignoring the position.
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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby Tripwired » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:15 am

Lots of good advice. Thanks everyone. So, sitting at 1.07 should I just go BPA in general and then hammer QB and TE the next 3 picks depending on the flow? Or, take the best QB and go with the flow from there? I'm assuming there will be a couple of QBs taken in the top 6, because it's 16 teams. That should push down a nice skill player potentially. I won't pick again until around pick 26 overall. Things are going to thin out quickly. Lol
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby FantasyFoosball » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:20 am

My first two picks would definitely be QB/QB. Then I’d probably go TE next, unless there is for some reason a good starting QB still left, which there shouldn’t be, then I would take a third QB. If they are gone like they should be, I’d grab a TE then.
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2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby Tripwired » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:22 pm

I played this in the SF section, but I'm not sure how much traffic there is over there. My next question is since there's 16 teams and each team should be trying to aquire 2 QBs early, which 16 x2 QBs =32. That's all the starters in the league. Do I draft a random backup or handcuff my QBs? Or, if in the 3rd round some teams haven't taken 2 QBs should I snipe a 3rd to have a backup/ bye week QB?

On a side note. The rookie draft will be separate and be the reverse snake order of the startup draft. So, I'll have the 10th pick in that. I expect Burrow, Tua, and Herbert to be gone before i pick at 1.10. That'll may mean a team or two that has a high rookie pick could strategize their startup draft with the expectation and knowledge that they'll land one of those QBs in the rookie draft, if they have a top 3-4 pick. That might leave a QB or two hanging around in the 3rd if the startup draft... possibly. I'm simply speculating. If that occurs do you take a 3rd ir but TE and BPA it from there while targeting another TE soon after the 3rd?
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby LMS123 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:25 pm

I’d for sure go QB round 1; then TE or QB round 2 but probably QB, then Grab your 2nd QB or first TE in round 3 depending what you do in round 2. Following that I’d go BPA to fill up RBs and WRs and wouldn’t hesitate to grab a second TE a few rounds later if someone falls or if you’re high on one
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QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
2024: 1.01, 1.07, 2.04, 2.10, 2.11, 3.01, 3.06, 3.07, 3.11
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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby snaps06 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:34 pm

I'd probably go QB-QB-QB-TE in the first 4 rounds. If you control 3 starting QBs, you can hold onto them and win or sell them for a Kings ransom. Then fill in the gaps in the mid rounds because lots of talent will fall in a superflex.
Team 1: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '16 & '17 3rd, '20 2nd Place
REBUILD STARTED 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Herbert
Zeke,Sanders,Swift,Moss,Robinson,Mattison,Gio
Cooper,Juju,AJB,Reagor,Ruggs,Mims,Kirk,Bateman,Moore
Kelce,Henry
2022: 2,3,4

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '17 & '20 2nd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Robinson,Dillon,CEvans,Mattison,Edmonds,Davis
Hopkins,Thomas,Woods,Cooks,Toney,MWilliams,
Kittle,Henry,Freier
2022:1,1,2,3,4

Team 3: 14-Team SF,PPR,0.25/rush '18 3rd Place, 2020 Champ :dance:
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Carr,Trask
Jacobs,Gibson,Robinson,LMurray,Ingram,Moss,Gio,SScott
Evans,Nuk,DJM,Boyd,Davis
Fant,Hooper,Gronk
2022:2,4
2023:1,1,2,3,4

Team 4: 12-TeamSF,0.5PPR,TE1PPR 2020 Champ :dance:
QB RB RB WR WR WR TE FLEX FLEX SFlex
Allen,Tanny,Cam,MacJones
Taylor,Akers,Montgomery,Gibson,Robinson,Harris,McKissic,SScott
DKM,Evans,Juju,Cooks,MWilliams,Trequan
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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby BucFanJKE » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:55 pm

QBs are cheapest during the startup. In a 16 teamer being able to grab 3 starting QBs will be a very strong advantage. If I could grab 4 I would. It definitely depends on what happens during the draft but most likely I would be hoping for at least 3 qbs in the first 4 rounds. If your league mates are neglecting qbs just keep swiping them up and trade them for a massive premium later. It's very unlikely more than a few teams can get 3+ qbs so if you have 4+ then you can really control the market. I know it will feel weird passing on the RB and WR studs but trust us, it will pay off in the long run.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
1.07, 3.04, 4.07

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
2024: 2 1st (one top 2), 3rd, 4th

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby Edgy68 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:48 pm

BucFanJKE wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:55 pm QBs are cheapest during the startup. In a 16 teamer being able to grab 3 starting QBs will be a very strong advantage. If I could grab 4 I would. It definitely depends on what happens during the draft but most likely I would be hoping for at least 3 qbs in the first 4 rounds. If your league mates are neglecting qbs just keep swiping them up and trade them for a massive premium later. It's very unlikely more than a few teams can get 3+ qbs so if you have 4+ then you can really control the market. I know it will feel weird passing on the RB and WR studs but trust us, it will pay off in the long run.
Just understand that this is a good long run strategy. Your league mates that neglect the QB position in that format will come around, but it may not be immediately first season. QBs are gold in 12-team, so 16-team makes them platinum. If you snag 3, you’re set and can decide to trade one if you want. If you snag 4, you’re in a commanding position. One could be traded before your rookie draft for a decent position player plus a high pick.
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN

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12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby mmass » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:52 am

I would draft QB's until all valueable starters are gone... with the rookie draft as deep as it is I would bank on adding a great position player there.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby Tripwired » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:59 am

Thank you all so much for the advice. This will really help me out.
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia

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Re: 16tm SF TE premium draft advice.

Postby honcho55 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:55 pm

Lot of ways you could go here, and the advice is all pretty sound.

One thing I’d comment on: the crazier leagues get, and I consider 16 man SF pretty intense, the more edge you can squeeze out of being active and prepared. Namely, I think this could really apply to trading up/down in the draft in this league.

I would absolutely be getting a feel for where other guys are with that, I can easily envision scenarios where managers valuations of things are wildly, wildly different

And just to throw a wrench in it all, what if you went WR, TE, WR to start? Ignore QB, suck year one. Grab Lawrence and Fields next year? Haha not sure I’d advise it but it kinda does sound fun.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy

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