Would you take this?

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Would you take this?

Postby Houptie » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:36 am

Where do you rank this? Dynasty Superflex trade... team I am in talks with is QB needy

Daniel Jones (was 13th QB this last year in ppg as a rookie)
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DJ Moore

for the record I am not WR needy but another never hurts, I have Cooper, Gallup, OBJ, Chark, Preston Williams, and some fillers.

Is this fair value, would you ask more since its superflex, or is this an overpay by him?
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QB: Dak, Kyler, Daniel Jones, Luck, Alex Smith, Easton Stick
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Penny, McKinnon, Brian Hill, Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson
WR: Cooper, OBJ, Chark, Gallup, Preston Williams, Beasley, J.Gordon, D. Robinson, J. Reynolds, JJAW, S.Miller
TE: Howard, Gesicki, Goedart, Warring

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.02, 2.03, 3.01, 4.01
2021: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2022: 1st, 4th

12 Team:
QB: Dak
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Guice, Penny, Pollard, Justice Hill, Brian Hill, Ballage, McKinnon, Ito Smith
WR: Cooper, Juju, Godwin, Landry, Anthony Miller, J.Reynolds, D.Robinson, AJ Brown, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Warring, Gesicki

2020: Early 1st, Early 1st, Mid 1st, Late 1st
2021:2nd, 4th
2022: 4th, 4th

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 am

I would guess value is on the Jones side in SF, but this is a tough call for me.

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Peteey84 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:50 am

With the QBs you already have and the picks you have, I think I make that trade.
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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Houptie » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:51 am

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 am I would guess value is on the Jones side in SF, but this is a tough call for me.
It being a tough one seems about right to me. Hard to say.
Dynasty 12 team Superflex
QB: Dak, Kyler, Daniel Jones, Luck, Alex Smith, Easton Stick
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Penny, McKinnon, Brian Hill, Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson
WR: Cooper, OBJ, Chark, Gallup, Preston Williams, Beasley, J.Gordon, D. Robinson, J. Reynolds, JJAW, S.Miller
TE: Howard, Gesicki, Goedart, Warring

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.02, 2.03, 3.01, 4.01
2021: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2022: 1st, 4th

12 Team:
QB: Dak
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Guice, Penny, Pollard, Justice Hill, Brian Hill, Ballage, McKinnon, Ito Smith
WR: Cooper, Juju, Godwin, Landry, Anthony Miller, J.Reynolds, D.Robinson, AJ Brown, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Warring, Gesicki

2020: Early 1st, Early 1st, Mid 1st, Late 1st
2021:2nd, 4th
2022: 4th, 4th

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby krtbuckeye » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:52 am

I say value is fairly even in SF. However, with the other QBs on the team in the sig, Jones is an injury away from being an every week starter (if he isn't already). As you mentioned, there isn't an immediate need at WR so I would hold Jones here and snag a WR or 2 in the draft.
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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Houptie » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:56 am

Peteey84 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:50 am With the QBs you already have and the picks you have, I think I make that trade.
Would you do it in a vaccum?
Dynasty 12 team Superflex
QB: Dak, Kyler, Daniel Jones, Luck, Alex Smith, Easton Stick
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Penny, McKinnon, Brian Hill, Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson
WR: Cooper, OBJ, Chark, Gallup, Preston Williams, Beasley, J.Gordon, D. Robinson, J. Reynolds, JJAW, S.Miller
TE: Howard, Gesicki, Goedart, Warring

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.02, 2.03, 3.01, 4.01
2021: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2022: 1st, 4th

12 Team:
QB: Dak
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Guice, Penny, Pollard, Justice Hill, Brian Hill, Ballage, McKinnon, Ito Smith
WR: Cooper, Juju, Godwin, Landry, Anthony Miller, J.Reynolds, D.Robinson, AJ Brown, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Warring, Gesicki

2020: Early 1st, Early 1st, Mid 1st, Late 1st
2021:2nd, 4th
2022: 4th, 4th

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby killer_of_giants » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:56 am

it's not like you have all that at QB if you sell jones. if he's needy, make him pay.

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Miso_Neil » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:59 am

Peteey84 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:50 am With the QBs you already have and the picks you have, I think I make that trade.
I would be okay with making the trade, assuming you are taking Burrow at 1.01 and possibly even Tua at 1.02. But I would see what else you can squeeze out of the guy since he is QB needy.
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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Houptie » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:01 am

killer_of_giants wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:56 am it's not like you have all that at QB if you sell jones. if he's needy, make him pay.
I have Dak and Kyler to keep and then I plan on taking Burrow and Tua at 1 &2. I am not opposed to keeping Jones as well as those guys either. Just trying to see if thats appropriate value
Dynasty 12 team Superflex
QB: Dak, Kyler, Daniel Jones, Luck, Alex Smith, Easton Stick
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Penny, McKinnon, Brian Hill, Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson
WR: Cooper, OBJ, Chark, Gallup, Preston Williams, Beasley, J.Gordon, D. Robinson, J. Reynolds, JJAW, S.Miller
TE: Howard, Gesicki, Goedart, Warring

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.02, 2.03, 3.01, 4.01
2021: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2022: 1st, 4th

12 Team:
QB: Dak
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Guice, Penny, Pollard, Justice Hill, Brian Hill, Ballage, McKinnon, Ito Smith
WR: Cooper, Juju, Godwin, Landry, Anthony Miller, J.Reynolds, D.Robinson, AJ Brown, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Warring, Gesicki

2020: Early 1st, Early 1st, Mid 1st, Late 1st
2021:2nd, 4th
2022: 4th, 4th

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby killer_of_giants » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:04 am

Houptie wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:01 am
killer_of_giants wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:56 am it's not like you have all that at QB if you sell jones. if he's needy, make him pay.
I have Dak and Kyler to keep and then I plan on taking Burrow and Tua at 1 &2.
fair enough.
still, a young QB who did well (in fantasy, if you don't penalise turnovers too much) in superflex.
i'd squeeze a bit more or find another deal.

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Houptie » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:05 am

Miso_Neil wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:59 am
Peteey84 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:50 am With the QBs you already have and the picks you have, I think I make that trade.
I would be okay with making the trade, assuming you are taking Burrow at 1.01 and possibly even Tua at 1.02. But I would see what else you can squeeze out of the guy since he is QB needy.
Id really like to get Guice out of him too but he loooooves guice
Dynasty 12 team Superflex
QB: Dak, Kyler, Daniel Jones, Luck, Alex Smith, Easton Stick
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Penny, McKinnon, Brian Hill, Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson
WR: Cooper, OBJ, Chark, Gallup, Preston Williams, Beasley, J.Gordon, D. Robinson, J. Reynolds, JJAW, S.Miller
TE: Howard, Gesicki, Goedart, Warring

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.02, 2.03, 3.01, 4.01
2021: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2022: 1st, 4th

12 Team:
QB: Dak
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Guice, Penny, Pollard, Justice Hill, Brian Hill, Ballage, McKinnon, Ito Smith
WR: Cooper, Juju, Godwin, Landry, Anthony Miller, J.Reynolds, D.Robinson, AJ Brown, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Warring, Gesicki

2020: Early 1st, Early 1st, Mid 1st, Late 1st
2021:2nd, 4th
2022: 4th, 4th

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Houptie » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:06 am

killer_of_giants wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:04 am
Houptie wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:01 am
killer_of_giants wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:56 am it's not like you have all that at QB if you sell jones. if he's needy, make him pay.
I have Dak and Kyler to keep and then I plan on taking Burrow and Tua at 1 &2.
fair enough.
still, a young QB who did well (in fantasy, if you don't penalise turnovers too much) in superflex.
i'd squeeze a bit more or find another deal.
Definately, I think he has top 10 upside this next year. Having a 23 year old top 10 qb aint bad haha
Dynasty 12 team Superflex
QB: Dak, Kyler, Daniel Jones, Luck, Alex Smith, Easton Stick
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Penny, McKinnon, Brian Hill, Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson
WR: Cooper, OBJ, Chark, Gallup, Preston Williams, Beasley, J.Gordon, D. Robinson, J. Reynolds, JJAW, S.Miller
TE: Howard, Gesicki, Goedart, Warring

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.02, 2.03, 3.01, 4.01
2021: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2022: 1st, 4th

12 Team:
QB: Dak
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Guice, Penny, Pollard, Justice Hill, Brian Hill, Ballage, McKinnon, Ito Smith
WR: Cooper, Juju, Godwin, Landry, Anthony Miller, J.Reynolds, D.Robinson, AJ Brown, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Warring, Gesicki

2020: Early 1st, Early 1st, Mid 1st, Late 1st
2021:2nd, 4th
2022: 4th, 4th

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby jwb32 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:11 am

Wow. I know its SF, but if I'm moving Moore, I want a more proven QB coming back. This seems like a huge overpay.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: Would you take this?

Postby Houptie » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:18 am

jwb32 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:11 am Wow. I know its SF, but if I'm moving Moore, I want a more proven QB coming back. This seems like a huge overpay.
Do you have experience with dynasty superflex? QB's are gold in my league. If this is a huge overpay for you, what seems right?
Dynasty 12 team Superflex
QB: Dak, Kyler, Daniel Jones, Luck, Alex Smith, Easton Stick
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Penny, McKinnon, Brian Hill, Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson
WR: Cooper, OBJ, Chark, Gallup, Preston Williams, Beasley, J.Gordon, D. Robinson, J. Reynolds, JJAW, S.Miller
TE: Howard, Gesicki, Goedart, Warring

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.02, 2.03, 3.01, 4.01
2021: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2022: 1st, 4th

12 Team:
QB: Dak
RB: Barkley, Hunt, Guice, Penny, Pollard, Justice Hill, Brian Hill, Ballage, McKinnon, Ito Smith
WR: Cooper, Juju, Godwin, Landry, Anthony Miller, J.Reynolds, D.Robinson, AJ Brown, Isabella, Boykin
TE: Andrews, Hockenson, Warring, Gesicki

2020: Early 1st, Early 1st, Mid 1st, Late 1st
2021:2nd, 4th
2022: 4th, 4th

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Re: Would you take this?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:19 am

Moore > Jones, even in superflex. I'd accept that ASAP if/when the offer becomes official.
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