Fair trade or not?

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Fair trade or not?

Postby Indyfan1985 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:43 am

I have Dalvin Cook and I'm looking to acquire his backup Mattison, along with move up a bit in the draft. I have the 1.05.

The manager who owns Mattison also owns the 1.01 and 1.04. He also has Tyreek Hill.

I would offer him Mecole Hardman as insurance to Hill, and he would offer me back Mattison as insurance for Cook.

My offer would be Hardman and my 1.05 for Mattison and his 1.01. Is that an even deal?
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QB - Patrick Mahomes
QB - Carson Wentz
WR - Michael Thomas
WR - Mike Evans
RB - Saquon Barkley
RB - Dalvin Cook
TE - George Kittle
WR/RB/TE - Odell Beckham Jr
WR/RB/TE - Cooper Kupp

Top Bench Players...
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TE Darren Waller
WR Calvin Ridley
WR Mecole Hardman
WR Diontae Johnson
QB Jacoby Brissett

2020 Draft picks...
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby TBF_Dynasty » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:54 am

Value wise this is probably close but personally i would not be willing to give the 1.01 with the trade at this point in time.
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TE: Ebron, J. Smith, D. Knox, Sternberger, Hurst, Hollister

2020 Picks: 1.09, 1.11, 2.01, 2.06, 3.01, 4.01, 5.01,


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QB: Darnold, Jones, Roethlisberger
RB: Carson, Mack, Kerryon, Drake, RoJo, Sanders, Love,
WR: Adams, Evans, Gallup, T. Williams, G. Tate, Slayton, Butler, Shepard, Sims Jr
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:59 am

Not bad overall, but I would not move back from the 1.01 for that personally.
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WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:59 am

I'd value Hardman as a mid/late 1st and Mattison as a mid 2nd, so this seems pretty fair. Basically 1.01 + 2nd for two mid 1sts. I'd want the 1.01 side in a 2QB format for sure though. You can make the offer as is, but it might get countered with you adding a bit more to your side.
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby hiteck22 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:01 am

I dont think there is a chance you can get that deal done as is. The gap between 1.01 and 1.05 is pretty big, I wouldn't trade 1.01 for Hardman and 1.05 right now without Mattison involved.
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:12 am

sell dalvin instead?

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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby Dynastydumpsterfire » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:17 am

hiteck22 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:01 am
I dont think there is a chance you can get that deal done as is. The gap between 1.01 and 1.05 is pretty big, I wouldn't trade 1.01 for Hardman and 1.05 right now without Mattison involved.
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WR.- Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, N. Harry, P. Campbell, T. Smith, H. Renfrow, A. Lazard A. Tate, M. Sanu, Z. Pascal, C. Conley, K. Johnson, J. Meyers
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:29 am

This is nowhere near an even deal and has no chance of getting accepted, especially considering this is a 2QB league. The 1.01 is even more valuable in that kind of a format. I wouldn't move the 1.01 alone for Hardman, Mattison, and the 1.05. Even that wouldn't be close.
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby Goddard » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:28 am

This isn't very close for me either. The 1.01 alone is worth more than Hardman and the 1.04. I don't see any incentive for the other owner making this trade.

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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:43 am

This isn’t close for me at all...
IMO Mattison=Hardman

So you’re basically asking to for the 1.1 for your 1.5 straight up..
Even if you value Hardman higher than Mattison, there’s no way it comes close to closing the gap from the 1.1 and 1.5...
I think you need to add a bit
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby RB6 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:34 am

1.01 side, not close.
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TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby Lordchay » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:39 am

Piling on. I wouldn't move back from the 1.01 in SF to get an insurance policy for Hill when I can sell the 1.01 for much more alone.
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby Intoodeep » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:47 am

I wouldn't even think of this if I were the other owner. If one of these top rbs go to KC, he will be the 1.01 and worth more than Cook and Mattison going into the 2021 season. Hardman doesn't move the needle enough to risk that to the 1.05.

As someone else questioned, what about selling Cook? Maybe for the 1.01+
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Re: Fair trade or not?

Postby Indyfan1985 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:08 pm

What about if I gave up Calvin Ridley to the owner of the 1.02 pick straight up. Who has the better side there or is that considered fairly even?
2 QB PPR 10 team League

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QB - Patrick Mahomes
QB - Carson Wentz
WR - Michael Thomas
WR - Mike Evans
RB - Saquon Barkley
RB - Dalvin Cook
TE - George Kittle
WR/RB/TE - Odell Beckham Jr
WR/RB/TE - Cooper Kupp

Top Bench Players...
RB Joe Mixon
TE Darren Waller
WR Calvin Ridley
WR Mecole Hardman
WR Diontae Johnson
QB Jacoby Brissett

2020 Draft picks...
1.05, 2.01, 3.01, 3.02


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