What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

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What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Easy Breesy » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:50 pm

I’ve got him in a league it’s 0.5 point ppr with return yardage being counted along with rushing/receiving yardage He was the 3rd overall WR this year in that league. The league is. 16 team 2 QB IDP league. What’s his value?
Early 2020 1st? Mid? Or are there certain players you guys have in his range?
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP, Tom Brady, Big Ben, Deshaun Watson
RB- Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, Antonio Gibson , Justin Jackson, James White, Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Jamison Crowder, Hunter Renfrow, Kenny Stills, Greg Ward, Cordarelle Patterson
TE- Travis Kelce, Foster Moreau, Dallas Goedert, David Njoku, Cam Brate, Brycen Hopkins, Kahale Warring, Mark Andrews. Kaden Smith,
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby LMS123 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:02 pm

I’ve never played in a league with return yardage points, gotta think in that format he’s worth 2 firsts, no? Just thinking like in the league in my Sig the #3 WR was Nuk, and 2 firsts would be a steal for him
Team 1: 12 team PPR SF (2019 Runner Up)
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QB - Jackson, Mayfield, Trubisky, RG3, Kaep, Fromm
RB - Barkley, Gurley, Singletary, Mostert, Armstead, Gibson, Hasty
WR - Kupp, AJG, Anderson, Aiyuk, Ross, Perriman, O. Johnson, Cole, Miller, Quinn, Bourne, Ford, Gage, Proche, Reed, T. Johnson
TE - Kittle, Njoku, Griffin, Moreau, Keene, Arnold, Boyle, Bryant
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2021 Picks: 4th, 4th, 4th
2022 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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QB - Darnold, Lock, Minshew, Mariota, Gordon
RB - Cook, Mixon, Taylor, Coleman, Bernard, Warren, Huntley, Bellamy
WR - Kupp, Mims, Shenault, Hardman, Duvernay, Ross, DPJ, Watson, Mooney, Flash Gordon
TE - Gesicki, Jonnu, Thomas, Keene, Eifert, Parham, Sullivan
2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 5th, 5th
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Easy Breesy » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:06 pm

LMS123 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:02 pm
I’ve never played in a league with return yardage points, gotta think in that format he’s worth 2 firsts, no? Just thinking like in the league in my Sig the #3 WR was Nuk, and 2 firsts would be a steal for him
I have him as an early 1st this year (1.02 or 1.03) or equivalent to a mid 2020 1st+2021. I’ve been trying to sell him best I’ve gotten is 1.10 in 2020. Think I might just hold him based on his value.
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP, Tom Brady, Big Ben, Deshaun Watson
RB- Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, Antonio Gibson , Justin Jackson, James White, Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Jamison Crowder, Hunter Renfrow, Kenny Stills, Greg Ward, Cordarelle Patterson
TE- Travis Kelce, Foster Moreau, Dallas Goedert, David Njoku, Cam Brate, Brycen Hopkins, Kahale Warring, Mark Andrews. Kaden Smith,
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby LMS123 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:08 pm

Easy Breesy wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:06 pm
LMS123 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:02 pm
I’ve never played in a league with return yardage points, gotta think in that format he’s worth 2 firsts, no? Just thinking like in the league in my Sig the #3 WR was Nuk, and 2 firsts would be a steal for him
I have him as an early 1st this year (1.02 or 1.03) or equivalent to a mid 2020 1st+2021. I’ve been trying to sell him best I’ve gotten is 1.10 in 2020. Think I might just hold him based on his value.
Easy hold if your being offered the 1.10
Team 1: 12 team PPR SF (2019 Runner Up)
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QB - Jackson, Mayfield, Trubisky, RG3, Kaep, Fromm
RB - Barkley, Gurley, Singletary, Mostert, Armstead, Gibson, Hasty
WR - Kupp, AJG, Anderson, Aiyuk, Ross, Perriman, O. Johnson, Cole, Miller, Quinn, Bourne, Ford, Gage, Proche, Reed, T. Johnson
TE - Kittle, Njoku, Griffin, Moreau, Keene, Arnold, Boyle, Bryant
K -
Def - 49ers
2021 Picks: 4th, 4th, 4th
2022 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2: 12 team 0.5 RB/WR PPR, 1.5 TE PPR, SF
(QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, SF, F, F, F)
QB - Darnold, Lock, Minshew, Mariota, Gordon
RB - Cook, Mixon, Taylor, Coleman, Bernard, Warren, Huntley, Bellamy
WR - Kupp, Mims, Shenault, Hardman, Duvernay, Ross, DPJ, Watson, Mooney, Flash Gordon
TE - Gesicki, Jonnu, Thomas, Keene, Eifert, Parham, Sullivan
2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 5th, 5th
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Easy Breesy » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:09 pm

LMS123 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:08 pm
Easy Breesy wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:06 pm
LMS123 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:02 pm
I’ve never played in a league with return yardage points, gotta think in that format he’s worth 2 firsts, no? Just thinking like in the league in my Sig the #3 WR was Nuk, and 2 firsts would be a steal for him
I have him as an early 1st this year (1.02 or 1.03) or equivalent to a mid 2020 1st+2021. I’ve been trying to sell him best I’ve gotten is 1.10 in 2020. Think I might just hold him based on his value.
Easy hold if your being offered the 1.10
Yeah just wanted to get some other thoughts and make sure I wasn’t overvaluing him
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP, Tom Brady, Big Ben, Deshaun Watson
RB- Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, Antonio Gibson , Justin Jackson, James White, Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Jamison Crowder, Hunter Renfrow, Kenny Stills, Greg Ward, Cordarelle Patterson
TE- Travis Kelce, Foster Moreau, Dallas Goedert, David Njoku, Cam Brate, Brycen Hopkins, Kahale Warring, Mark Andrews. Kaden Smith,
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:07 pm

Mid 1st for me at minimum factoring in all scoring settings. Seems like he is a big time asset in this league, especially with 16 teams.

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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:54 am

Easy Breesy wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:50 pm
I’ve got him in a league it’s 0.5 point ppr with return yardage being counted along with rushing/receiving yardage He was the 3rd overall WR this year in that league.
In a normal format, I'd value Lockett somewhere in the range between the no. 5 pick and the no. 10 pick. In a return yardage league where he was the no. 3 WR, I'd want a top-3 rookie pick for him, but I also understand why owners wouldn't pay that in a 16-team league where those QBs will likely go early.
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Goddard » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:08 am

If he was the WR3 in your league, he's got to be worth an early 1st. I'd take Burrow over him in a 16 team SF, but everyone else would pretty much be a toss up.

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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Paul717 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:39 pm

Just playing Devil's advocate here. Perhaps your league mates are scared of the prospect of Lockett not being the primary return guy. A coach can decide not to risk stud skill position players in the return game. In 2017 he had a combined 73 punt and kick returns. That number was 44 in 2018 and 27 in 2019. Weirdly, there were several games with no attempts in either category in 2019. Link: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... ckTy00.htm

That said, agreed with OP that 1.10 is too low.
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Straycatz2 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:28 pm

Paul717 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:39 pm
A coach can decide not to risk stud skill position players in the return game. In 2017 he had a combined 73 punt and kick returns. That number was 44 in 2018 and 27 in 2019.
This is some great info Paul.

For OP. Lockett punt return yards per return has dropped every year from 9.5 to 5.1 YR/R this year. That doesn't look great.
For comparison Edelman worst year stats was 7.7 YR/R in 2018 and then NE switched to a different punt returner. That probably also has to do with not wanting Edelman to get hurt as well, but the same would apply for Lockett. I could easily see seattle going with a different returner next year or next couple of years.

1.10 is low, but something a little higher, I would probably consider.

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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby DynoScout » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:21 pm

Straycatz2 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:28 pm
Paul717 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:39 pm
A coach can decide not to risk stud skill position players in the return game. In 2017 he had a combined 73 punt and kick returns. That number was 44 in 2018 and 27 in 2019.
This is some great info Paul.

For OP. Lockett punt return yards per return has dropped every year from 9.5 to 5.1 YR/R this year. That doesn't look great.
For comparison Edelman worst year stats was 7.7 YR/R in 2018 and then NE switched to a different punt returner. That probably also has to do with not wanting Edelman to get hurt as well, but the same would apply for Lockett. I could easily see seattle going with a different returner next year or next couple of years.

1.10 is low, but something a little higher, I would probably consider.

Unless I'm missing something, despite the dropping number of returns and decreasing return yardage he was still WR3 in 2019.
I wouldn't part with him for less than 1.5 firsts given this format/scoring, maybe closer to two random firsts.

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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Easy Breesy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:53 am

DynoScout wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:21 pm
Straycatz2 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:28 pm
Paul717 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:39 pm
A coach can decide not to risk stud skill position players in the return game. In 2017 he had a combined 73 punt and kick returns. That number was 44 in 2018 and 27 in 2019.
This is some great info Paul.

For OP. Lockett punt return yards per return has dropped every year from 9.5 to 5.1 YR/R this year. That doesn't look great.
For comparison Edelman worst year stats was 7.7 YR/R in 2018 and then NE switched to a different punt returner. That probably also has to do with not wanting Edelman to get hurt as well, but the same would apply for Lockett. I could easily see seattle going with a different returner next year or next couple of years.

1.10 is low, but something a little higher, I would probably consider.

Unless I'm missing something, despite the dropping number of returns and decreasing return yardage he was still WR3 in 2019.
I wouldn't part with him for less than 1.5 firsts given this format/scoring, maybe closer to two random firsts.
Thanks for the feedback guys and you’re right despite the drop in return yardage he was the WR3 overall this year I was hoping for an early 1 or a mid1+
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP, Tom Brady, Big Ben, Deshaun Watson
RB- Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, Antonio Gibson , Justin Jackson, James White, Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Jamison Crowder, Hunter Renfrow, Kenny Stills, Greg Ward, Cordarelle Patterson
TE- Travis Kelce, Foster Moreau, Dallas Goedert, David Njoku, Cam Brate, Brycen Hopkins, Kahale Warring, Mark Andrews. Kaden Smith,
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby Easy Breesy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:53 am

DynoScout wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:21 pm
Straycatz2 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:28 pm
Paul717 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:39 pm
A coach can decide not to risk stud skill position players in the return game. In 2017 he had a combined 73 punt and kick returns. That number was 44 in 2018 and 27 in 2019.
This is some great info Paul.

For OP. Lockett punt return yards per return has dropped every year from 9.5 to 5.1 YR/R this year. That doesn't look great.
For comparison Edelman worst year stats was 7.7 YR/R in 2018 and then NE switched to a different punt returner. That probably also has to do with not wanting Edelman to get hurt as well, but the same would apply for Lockett. I could easily see seattle going with a different returner next year or next couple of years.

1.10 is low, but something a little higher, I would probably consider.

Unless I'm missing something, despite the dropping number of returns and decreasing return yardage he was still WR3 in 2019.
I wouldn't part with him for less than 1.5 firsts given this format/scoring, maybe closer to two random firsts.
Thanks for the feedback guys and you’re right despite the drop in return yardage he was the WR3 overall this year I was hoping for an early 1 or a mid1+
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP, Tom Brady, Big Ben, Deshaun Watson
RB- Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, Antonio Gibson , Justin Jackson, James White, Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Jamison Crowder, Hunter Renfrow, Kenny Stills, Greg Ward, Cordarelle Patterson
TE- Travis Kelce, Foster Moreau, Dallas Goedert, David Njoku, Cam Brate, Brycen Hopkins, Kahale Warring, Mark Andrews. Kaden Smith,
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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:10 am

lockett hasn't returned punts since week 10, david moore is doing that at the moment (he's RFA atfer the season).
he also hasn't returned kickoffs either in the 4 games after the match against the 49ers, when he got banged up. he's returned to that role though.

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Re: What’s Tyler Lockett Worth?

Postby NWABCS » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:31 am

In my 12 team, SF, .5 PPR league he went for Curtis Samuel, 1st (ended up being 1.11), and Guice.

Some seem to be worried that he becomes the #2 option to DK Metcalf. Not sure I completely subscribe to that idea though.
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QB: Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Mayfield
RB: Cook, D. Henry, Chubb, J. Taylor (R)
WR/TE: Evans, Cooper, AJ Brown, J. Jones, M. Gallup, K. Cole, R. Gage, J. Reynolds, J. Jeudy (R), B. Aiyuk (R)
K: Blankenship (R)
DEF: Packers
2021 Picks: 1.6, 1.11, 2.11, 3.5
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QB: Wilson, Rodgers, Lock, Tua (R)
RB: Gordon, D. Cook, Lindsay, Chubb, D. Henderson, Gore, Darrell Williams
WR/TE: K. Allen, Cooper, Evans, D. Adams G. Tate, MVS, Agholor, Jeudy (R), Van Jefferson (R)
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