Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Which side would you want for team 1?

Alvin Kamara
14
52%
Dalvin Cook + Alexander Mattison
13
48%
 
Total votes: 27

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Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby elvisn » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:57 pm

Looking for advice on Kamara Vs Cook. I only acquired Kamara in the offseason for Cook and Godwin. Is this a trade I should pursue or should I stick with Kamara?

Thanks in advance.
Team 1
2019 Champions
12 Team - 0.5 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex(WRT). Bench 11, IR 2.

QB: Drew Brees, Minshew, Hurts.
RB: Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Ronald Jones, AJ Dillon, Justin Jackson, Bryce Love, Latavius Murray.
WR: Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Julian Edelman, Breshad Perriman, Bryan Edwards.
TE: Evan Engram, Dallas Goedert, Adam Trautman.

Picks:
2021: 1st, 3rd.
2022: 1st, 3rd.
2023: 1st ,2nd, 3rd.

Team 2
10 Team - PPR, 4pts Pass TD, 6pts Rec/Rush TD, Return scoring yards/TDs.
Start: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 4Flex

QB: LJax, ARod, Darnold, Love, Hurts, Rosen.
RB: Chubb, Drake, Dobbins, Hunt, Michel, DFreeman, Pollard, J Hill, Royce, Love, Scott.
WR: DK, JuJu, Lamb, Crowder, Campbell, Edwards, A Miller, Sims, AB, Laviska, S Miller.
TE: Cook, OJ Howard, Gronkowski, Gesicki.

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:58 pm

Mattison makes me a little concerned due to his skill level, but I like Cook's workload more. Mattison could be a starter down the road too.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 Roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: P. Mahomes, J. Allen
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon, D. Guice, L. Murray, R. Anderson
WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, C. Sutton, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, M. Williams, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
TE: I. Thomas, O.J. Howard, D. Njoku, G. Everett, A. Okwuegbunam, G. Olsen

2021 picks: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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12 Team, PPR, 1.5 TE Premium, 25 Roster, 5 Taxi Squad: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, 1 Super Flex
QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
TE: N. Fant, H. Hurst, C. Herndon, T. Moss

2021 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby Tripwired » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:26 pm

At this point I'm concerned with Kamara myself. I own him in one dynasty league and I'm looking to shop him for the right price. I thought he'd get much more volume this year with Ingram out of the picture, but they're still treating him like he's a committee back. I've also noticed this season that he's very TD dependent. His reception totals have carried him for the most part. Just an example, he scored 14 TDs his rookie season, 18 TDs last season, but only 6 TDs this year. Four of those TDs came in the last 2 weeks. He only had one other game, 2 TDs in week 3, in which he scored period. He scored 75pts less this year than his rookie season, and 106 pts less than last year in PPR. Okay, some that is due to him missing 2 games this season, but his pts per game avg was 23.6 both of his first two seasons, and down to 17.7 this year. I'm a little concerned. Is it just an aberration or something to truly worry about?
Meanwhile, Cook looks like a monster in that run heavy scheme that gives him heavy volume. If you're worried about him holding up you'll have his handcuff in Mattison. I like that side at this point. It's really a matter of which situation or player do you feel better about. Both really good, but it's your decision. Go with the one you'll sleep better knowing is on your roster.
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QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
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QB- Wentz, Danny Dimes, Tannehill- Got Lucked over by Andrew :thumbdown:
RB- Saquon, Kamara, Zeke, Chubb, Gurley
WR- OBJ, Amari, Sutton, Slayton, P. Williams
TE- Engram, Henry, Goedert, I. Smith, Gesicki, I. Thomas
DST - Pit
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QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Stafford
RB- Kerryon, Miles Sanders, McCoy
WR- Hopkins, OBJ, DJ Moore, M. Williams, C. Davis, A. Miller, Diontae Johnson, Washington, Deebo, Hardman, JJAW, P. Williams
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, I. Thomas, Gesicki
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Picks- 2020 1.01, 1.03, 1.05, 2.01, 2.03, 3.01

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby purplepride28 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:47 pm

id take the cook side. The emergence of taysom hill as a red zone weapon has made Kamara a lot less valuable in my opinion. Cook is the engine the moves the whole offense on the vikes, in the rush and pass game. And gets all the red zone looks. and Kamara Is more of a back that needs to share with a bigger back to make him more valuable per touch.and there’s so many different things going on in the saints offense.

Next week the saints waterboy will take a end around for 73 yards to put them down at the 3 yard line setting up a touchdown pass from their linebacker to the long snapper.

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby mchriste619 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:51 pm

Kamara by a good portion. TDs will regress to back what they should next season. Cook has an extensive injury history, especially to his shoulders , dating back to his FSU days. I like Cook a lot, but you have to factor in the injury history.

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby Kmani6 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:15 am

You realize that saying TDs should regress back to 15+ does not make sense right? TD Regression for RBs means back to the mean not the other way around lol. I think it is a bit concerning that the saints can be extremely dominant and putting up 30 a game without really involving Kamara heavily at all. Vikings on the other hand, cannot do the same with Cook.
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10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Dak Prescott
RB: Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook
WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, OBJ , Keenan Allen, Terry Mclaurin, Auden Tate, C. Samuel, D. Pettis, Zach Pascal, D. Johnson, A. Miller
TE: Travis Kelce,George Kittle, Jonnu Smith

2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05
2021 Picks: 1st, 3rd

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16 Team, SuperFlex, PPR, .25 PPC

QB: Rodgers, Big Ben, Winston, Trubisky,
RB: Cook, Mixon,Ingram, Murray, Coleman, Hyde, Miller, Duke Johnson
WR: Golladay,A.J. Green, Landry, Shepard, Sanders, Tate, Westbrook, Fitzgerald
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Doyle

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby Kmani6 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:15 am

Dalvin cooks situation is definitely much better as of now, the big difference between the two in my opinion is Cooks injury history.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Dak Prescott
RB: Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook
WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, OBJ , Keenan Allen, Terry Mclaurin, Auden Tate, C. Samuel, D. Pettis, Zach Pascal, D. Johnson, A. Miller
TE: Travis Kelce,George Kittle, Jonnu Smith

2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05
2021 Picks: 1st, 3rd

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16 Team, SuperFlex, PPR, .25 PPC

QB: Rodgers, Big Ben, Winston, Trubisky,
RB: Cook, Mixon,Ingram, Murray, Coleman, Hyde, Miller, Duke Johnson
WR: Golladay,A.J. Green, Landry, Shepard, Sanders, Tate, Westbrook, Fitzgerald
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Doyle

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby squidvicious » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:31 am

Kamara isn’t Kamara this year. Has been dealing with a high-ankle sprain. Those don’t get right until the off-season.
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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby Dunville » Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:13 am

I think this trade is basically a wash.

I personally prefer Kamara as I see him being a longer term asset, I think his ppt floor will keep him as a mid RB1 for years with the caveat of upside.

Cook has looked absolutely dominant but he seems to get banged up often so I could see the Vikings scaling back his load a tad given they have a talented back up in Mattison, not anything to take him out of being an RB1 but enough to potentially cap his upside.



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12 Team 1 pt PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex 1K
QB Tannehill, Newton
RB Zeke, Kamara, JT, Mostert Cohen, Richard, Pollard, Darwin Thompson, Murray, Hyde
WR Thomas, Ridley, Thielen, Tee Higgins, Van Jefferson, Wilson, Amendola, Auden Tate, Perriman
TE Ertz,Walker Jonnu Smith, Goedert, Fells
K Butker
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DT Ogunjobi Phillips
DE Ngakoue, Dunlap Barnett, Addison, JPP, ShaqLawson
LB Todd Davis, Mosely, Littleton, Warner, Pratt, Wilson, Takitaki, Kiser
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2021 picks: 3rd, 6th

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby honcho55 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:22 am

Dunville wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:13 am
I think this trade is basically a wash.

I personally prefer Kamara as I see him being a longer term asset, I think his ppt floor will keep him as a mid RB1 for years with the caveat of upside.

Cook has looked absolutely dominant but he seems to get banged up often so I could see the Vikings scaling back his load a tad given they have a talented back up in Mattison, not anything to take him out of being an RB1 but enough to potentially cap his upside.



Just my two cents
I was about to post, but this sums up where Im at I think.

I tend to look in a short window than most (I think), so the fact that I think Kamara will be worth more in 4-5 years doesnt factor in too heavily, and I call this a push. If you are more future minded, Id lean Kamara.
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14 team
start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT. keep 20 *adding SF and more keepers 2021

QB: Wilson, Dak, Herbert
RB: E Elliot, J Taylor, JK Dobbins, T Coleman, N Bellore
WR: J Smith-Schuster, M Thomas, AJ Brown, A Cooper, M Pittman, A Miller, K Coutee, S Sims
TE. T Kelce, I Thomas, M Gesicki, A Okwugbunam

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Re: Poll: Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook + Mattison

Postby XclickX » Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:32 pm

Id rather Kamara over Cook/ Mat but I think you can get more for Cook and Matt rn than Kamara. I’d try to turn Cook/Matt into Barkley/ CMC/ Zeke.


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