Which side?

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Who you got?

DJ Moore+3.05
5
26%
Davante Adams
14
74%
 
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Which side?

Postby JamboMac » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:06 am

Team 3 in Sig.

I have made a couple of moves the last few days for my team.

1.02+Tevin Coleman for DJ Moore+2.11/2.12

Then last night..

Diggs+Gallup+2.11/2.12 for Hopkins

Given my WR corp at the start of the season (by far my weakest point at the time), it is now looking a million times better.

I have now been offered Adams+4th for DJ Moore+3rd - just want to clarify that I LOVE Moore, one of my favourite players in the league. But I do worry about his QB situation if Cam doesn't come back. Adams is clearly a great receiver, but the age difference is big for me, and he has also only had 1 truly great season so far.

Should I push the button on it, or stay? I'm leaning towards keeping Moore, as it's PPR and he has been very consistent, even with poor QB play.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

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QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
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Re: Which side?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:22 am

Red9Devil wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:06 am I have now been offered Adams+4th for DJ Moore+3rd
Adams for me in a heartbeat
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Re: Which side?

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:06 am

Adams side

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Re: Which side?

Postby Big Al » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:01 am

I like DJ Moore but that's enough for Adams.

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Re: Which side?

Postby crip7300 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:04 am

I'm probably going to be significantly outnumbered here, but I would stay with Moore. Moore is 4 years younger and this year produced almost the same ppg avg as Adams, with Kyle Allen at QB. The odds would say you will get more lifetime value and numbers out of Moore from this point forward than you will out of Adams, barring injury. Plus, in 3 years Adams will be hitting that 30 year age wall, where Moore will just be hitting his prime and still more than likely carry good trade value.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz

Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat

Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift

WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant


Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle

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Re: Which side?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:12 am

adams by a ton. thats a blessing to redeem the 1.02 for much better value than dj moore
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Which side?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:13 am

crip7300 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:04 am I'm probably going to be significantly outnumbered here, but I would stay with Moore. Moore is 4 years younger and this year produced almost the same ppg avg as Adams, with Kyle Allen at QB. The odds would say you will get more lifetime value and numbers out of Moore from this point forward than you will out of Adams, barring injury. Plus, in 3 years Adams will be hitting that 30 year age wall, where Moore will just be hitting his prime and still more than likely carry good trade value.
the goal is to win the league. look at his team!
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Which side?

Postby squidvicious » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:26 am

Adams. You have McCaffrey, Elliott and Hopkins. Have to be in win-now mode. Rodgers is still great. I prefer diversifying the roster too. Next year, if Carolina puts up a dud in a playoff week, you would really get your playoff chances torpedoed.
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Re: Which side?

Postby crip7300 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:06 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:13 am
crip7300 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:04 am I'm probably going to be significantly outnumbered here, but I would stay with Moore. Moore is 4 years younger and this year produced almost the same ppg avg as Adams, with Kyle Allen at QB. The odds would say you will get more lifetime value and numbers out of Moore from this point forward than you will out of Adams, barring injury. Plus, in 3 years Adams will be hitting that 30 year age wall, where Moore will just be hitting his prime and still more than likely carry good trade value.
the goal is to win the league. look at his team!
I get that and totally agree, but is, let's say 2 ppg on avg worth 4 less years of similar production? Why have a 4 year window with Adams, when you could have a 8 year window with Moore. I really don't think Adams is that much more talented and again this year they are less than 1 ppg apart on avg. Also if you don't win the championship in the next few years and your window does close cuz the rest of your team is aging, at least you can still get good trade value out of Moore to rebuild. Adams will more than likely be only worth a 2nd if still productive and could be worthless. Plus players seem to get injured more as they age and tend to significantly lose value due to it. Just doesn't make sense for a few more ppg for a couple of years, just doubt those few ppg make much of a difference in most games outcomes, but giving up a young asset like Moore could set your team's overall value back a few years. Again just my opinion.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz

Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat

Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift

WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant


Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle

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Re: Which side?

Postby JamboMac » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:53 pm

crip7300 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:06 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:13 am
crip7300 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:04 am I'm probably going to be significantly outnumbered here, but I would stay with Moore. Moore is 4 years younger and this year produced almost the same ppg avg as Adams, with Kyle Allen at QB. The odds would say you will get more lifetime value and numbers out of Moore from this point forward than you will out of Adams, barring injury. Plus, in 3 years Adams will be hitting that 30 year age wall, where Moore will just be hitting his prime and still more than likely carry good trade value.
the goal is to win the league. look at his team!
I get that and totally agree, but is, let's say 2 ppg on avg worth 4 less years of similar production? Why have a 4 year window with Adams, when you could have a 8 year window with Moore. I really don't think Adams is that much more talented and again this year they are less than 1 ppg apart on avg. Also if you don't win the championship in the next few years and your window does close cuz the rest of your team is aging, at least you can still get good trade value out of Moore to rebuild. Adams will more than likely be only worth a 2nd if still productive and could be worthless. Plus players seem to get injured more as they age and tend to significantly lose value due to it. Just doesn't make sense for a few more ppg for a couple of years, just doubt those few ppg make much of a difference in most games outcomes, but giving up a young asset like Moore could set your team's overall value back a few years. Again just my opinion.
This is exactly where I'm at. Moore has the chance to be great! Look at his numbers in year two! Better than Adams first 4 years. Add 20 ppg to the 3 he missed this year and he is still only 10 points ahead of DJ in my league. This is why I'm struggling with it.

He is absolutely worth the 1.02 that I paid. Exactly the type of player I would have HOPED to draft, as I would have gone for a WR.

I'm still not 100% convinced it's the right thing to do, as I don't see much difference between the two, other than the QB situation. I think I may hold until I know more about that.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,

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Re: Which side?

Postby SHIZZLE » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:24 pm

tough call, Adams is older, but if your in win now mode - I would grab Adams. he's the only guy rogers loves to throw at. Your WR's will be on the older side, so its concerning, but you will me the best at that position for the next 3 years probably.
12 team PPR
QB- Lamar, Burrow, Richardson
WR- K. Allen, Garrett Wilson, Pickens, OBJ, DeVonta Smith, Wan'dale, Tillman
RB- McCaffrey, Chubb, Sanders, Dobbins, Brian Robinson, Roschon, Ford, Rodriguez
TE- Henry, Knox, Ferguson, Laporta, Darnell washington
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Re: Which side?

Postby JamboMac » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:27 am

SHIZZLE wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:24 pm tough call, Adams is older, but if your in win now mode - I would grab Adams. he's the only guy rogers loves to throw at. Your WR's will be on the older side, so its concerning, but you will me the best at that position for the next 3 years probably.
Yeah, this is the other conundrum. My reasoning for keeping Moore would be in the hopes that by the time Allen and Hopkins are aging, he will be the next best thing! It's a gamble with the QB situation. But he has been great this year given the current issues there.

I really don't think there is a wrong choice with this one, which makes it a little bit more difficult.
12 team - 1QB, PPR
QB- Mahomes, Geno, Dobbs
RB- Ekeler, Taylor, Z.White, B.Robinson, Mattison, Stevenson, Zeke
WR- Allen, Jefferson, Tyreek, AJ Brown, M.Thomas, Atwell
TE- McBride, Waller, J.Smith

12 team - SF, PPR, 0.25PPC, 1.5 TEP
QB - Allen, Lawrence, Jackson
RB - JT, Etienne, Hall, K.Williams, Gibbs, Dobbins
WR - Lamb, St Brown, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, JSN, Meyers
TE - Pitts, Engram, Freiermuth, Otton,


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