Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

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Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby DLF3000 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:51 pm

Would you want Thomas or Knox for next year+?

I have a hard time understanding why Thomas barely played at all until mid-late season this year after a decent finish last year, not pushing 34-year old Olsen at all for playing time for months. Plus it's only a concussion and Olsen might not retire this year either after rumors of it last year.

Meanwhile, Knox has flashed himself, but is really up and down on a strange offense.

Both guys have just ok or terrible QBs, depending who you ask.
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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:05 pm

Thomas for me. He has shown very well when giving starter reps over the last two years. He just needs to be the guy and continue to grow.

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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby DLF3000 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:14 pm

Hah, and now Olsen's already back at practice. Still no idea who's a better bet next year and beyond - tough call, especially with Olsen still around for who knows how many more seasons.
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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby Zech13 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:22 pm

New coach coming to Carolina too. Scheme may change if new guy cuts the OC...?

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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby Goddard » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:44 pm

Not sure there's a right answer here for now, but I think I'd lean Knox. I do think Thomas finishes strong if Olsen doesn't come back (which looks like he probably will as early as this week).

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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby keebs3 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:47 pm

I like both- but would probably lean Thomas. I like his size and seems to come around once he gets touches. Once he's had time to practice as the TE1 I think he be worth quite a bit more than he is currently.
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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:38 pm

Knox has the higher ceiling with how few weapons there are in that offense but Thomas has shown more and definitely has a safer floor with no Olsen next year. If you want a safe TE1 then I lean Thomas but since you are set at the position with Kelce and Andrews I would go Knox for upside

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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby Mike from Canada » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:42 pm

Dammit Olsen give it up already.

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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby Adam_172 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:15 am

I'm a massive fan of both but I honestly think that Thomas can become a top 5 TE in the long run.
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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:14 am

Give me Knox. I had the choice between the two of them this year, and I took Knox over Thomas. I like Thomas too, but Knox has no competition in Buffalo. Thomas isn't even the starter on his own team, and I don't know that there's a lot of targets to go around anyways with CMC and DJ Moore there. Those guys will feast.
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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby Big Al » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:18 am

Pretty much a toss-up. I'd lean Thomas slightly though.

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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby SHIZZLE » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:13 am

I agree with you in regards to Thomas not able to push Olsen for more snaps, it tells me he's not close. I know it takes years for TE's to develop so he still may be a good TE once Olsen leaves, but Knox is doing it year 1. He reminds me of Herndon a little bit and with that I lean Knox, his film is fun to watch and reminds me of smaller Gronk after the catch.
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Re: Ian Thomas or Dawson Knox?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:31 am

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