OBJ or DJ Moore

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Goddard » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:35 am

hoos89 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:15 am
Goddard wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:05 am
I just looked at Amari Coopers first two years, and he had 2,223 receiving yards and 159 rushing. Not including return yards, because that's a pretty useless stat to include to try and prop a player up in dynasty unless you're playing in a league with return yards. So just the first name on your list exceeded 2,300 yards at age 22. Not sure where you're getting your information from.
Amari Cooper had -3 rushing yards his first 2 seasons and he has 21 in his career...where are you getting your information?


Also, I clearly said yards from scrimmage, which means receiving + rushing yards. Return yards would be included in all-purpose yards, not yards from scrimmage. I also said that DJ Moore is tracking for ~2,300 yards from scrimmage. He is on pace for 1,343 yards from scrimmage this season and he had 960 last season. That's 2,303.
Yeah, not sure how I saw that about Cooper. Also, the post I responded to didn't say anything about Moore "tracking" for 2,300 yards. That was in a different comment. That's why it didn't make any sense when I looked at his numbers.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby hoos89 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:45 am

You did respond to my initial where I said he was tracking for 2,300 yards, though.
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Wentz, Minshew, Bridgewater, Haskins
Jacobs, Michel, D. Harris, Richard, Gaskin
DJ Moore, Sutton, Kupp, Kirk, Deebo, Dorsett, J. Gordon, Lee, Lazard
OJ Howard, Hockenson, Herndon
IR(2): Love, McKinnon
Taxi(4): MVS
2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 2.03, 2.11, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.03, 5.03

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Gurley, Barber, M. Brown, Miller, McKinnon, Ito, J. Jackson, R. Anderson, Richard, Edmunds
Thomas, Cooks, Watkins, Anderson, Beasley, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Lazard, Treadwell
Hooper, Herndon, Witten, Reed
2020 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.10, 2.11

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Goddard » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:49 am

hoos89 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:45 am
You did respond to my initial where I said he was tracking for 2,300 yards, though.
Just let it go dude, not everything has to be a fight. I went back and looked. I copied the portion that didn't include the "tracking for 2,300 yards" so I clearly skipped that part. It wasn't some attempt at trying to have a "got you" post. Move on...take Moore and go win a championship. Stop taking everything so seriously all the time.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby hoos89 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 am

You literally just came in here and said the stat I was posted was misleading, posted some actually inaccurate info to counter it, and then instead of just saying "oh yeah I missed the part where you said tracking" said "the post I responded to didn't say anything about it"....even though you DID respond to a post that included it. But you're right...this is a me problem.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Wentz, Minshew, Bridgewater, Haskins
Jacobs, Michel, D. Harris, Richard, Gaskin
DJ Moore, Sutton, Kupp, Kirk, Deebo, Dorsett, J. Gordon, Lee, Lazard
OJ Howard, Hockenson, Herndon
IR(2): Love, McKinnon
Taxi(4): MVS
2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 2.03, 2.11, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.03, 5.03

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Ryan, Bridgewater, Tannehill
Gurley, Barber, M. Brown, Miller, McKinnon, Ito, J. Jackson, R. Anderson, Richard, Edmunds
Thomas, Cooks, Watkins, Anderson, Beasley, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Lazard, Treadwell
Hooper, Herndon, Witten, Reed
2020 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.10, 2.11

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Goddard » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:59 am

hoos89 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 am
You literally just came in here and said the stat I was posted was misleading, posted some actually inaccurate info to counter it, and then instead of just saying "oh yeah I missed the part where you said tracking" said "the post I responded to didn't say anything about it"....even though you DID respond to a post that included it. But you're right...this is a me problem.
Glad you're getting it now! :lol:

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby sloth8u » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:13 pm

Dibbles wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:38 am
This is pretty simple in my eyes:

Option A:
Putting up very consistent WR1 numbers in just his 2nd year as a pro
Doing so with consistently horrible QB play
Plays with one of the best RB's in the game (if not "the" best) who is very young and who opposing defenses must account for
Plays with a solid and young #2 WR on other side of the field who opposing defenses must account for
Plays with a young up and coming TE who opposing defenses must account for (and a still-solid, soon to retire TE)
Has minimal injury history
Is a solid character with no on or off the field issues
Is very likely to play for the same solid offensive team for the foreseeable future

Option B:
Is 4 years older than option A
Has proven he can put up elite seasons in years past
Has struggled mightily with consistency for 3 seasons running
Has significant injury history
Is on a team who has been in purgatory for eternity, but currently has a stud RB, a solid WR #2, and a still-young-question-mark at QB
Has MAJOR on and off the field issues
Will very likely be on a different team sometime over the next 1-3 seasons

I will take Option A 100 out of 100 times, regardless of how great Option B's seasons were 3 years ago.
Through 14 games last year, option B had scored more points than option A this year. Id be careful falling into the trap of recent bias.

No problem if youd rather moore, but i feel your comments are a bit misleading.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby greenbird » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:00 am

Moore for me but I would get something added. People believe OBJ is better so get the extra.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:34 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:07 am
Personally I'd go with Beckham now that we know his down season is partially due to a lingering groin injury all year. That said, it's not crazy if you prefer Moore.
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26 man rosters - full point ppr
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QB: Winston, Dalton
RB: Kamara, Gurley, Sanders, Royce
WR: Julio, OBJ, Keenan, Fuller
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Krypto_King » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:17 pm

sloth8u wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:13 pm
Dibbles wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:38 am
This is pretty simple in my eyes:

Option A:
Putting up very consistent WR1 numbers in just his 2nd year as a pro
Doing so with consistently horrible QB play
Plays with one of the best RB's in the game (if not "the" best) who is very young and who opposing defenses must account for
Plays with a solid and young #2 WR on other side of the field who opposing defenses must account for
Plays with a young up and coming TE who opposing defenses must account for (and a still-solid, soon to retire TE)
Has minimal injury history
Is a solid character with no on or off the field issues
Is very likely to play for the same solid offensive team for the foreseeable future

Option B:
Is 4 years older than option A
Has proven he can put up elite seasons in years past
Has struggled mightily with consistency for 3 seasons running
Has significant injury history
Is on a team who has been in purgatory for eternity, but currently has a stud RB, a solid WR #2, and a still-young-question-mark at QB
Has MAJOR on and off the field issues
Will very likely be on a different team sometime over the next 1-3 seasons

I will take Option A 100 out of 100 times, regardless of how great Option B's seasons were 3 years ago.
Through 14 games last year, option B had scored more points than option A this year. Id be careful falling into the trap of recent bias.

No problem if youd rather moore, but i feel your comments are a bit misleading.
doesn't the guy 4 years older NEED to score more points if he wants this to be any type of question at all? this isn't about who is the better irl player, just dynasty/fantasy asset.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby squidvicious » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:00 am

Moore. Beckham’s last good season was 2016. Two with injury issues, and one with Cleveland Browns’ issues, but still.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Pats/VikesFan » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:02 am

Give me Moore. Youth and drama free makes him a future cornerstone.
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QB: Russell Wilson, Sam Darnold
RB: Saquon Barkley, Ezekiel Elliot, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice(IR), Tevin Coleman, Damien Harris, Ronald Jones, Tarik Cohen
WR: Keenan Allen, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, Allen Robinson, Mike Williams (LAC), Christian Kirk, Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin, Dionte Johnson, Preston Williams(IR)
TE: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Chris Herndon(IR)
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