Barkley vs Cook+

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What side for next year?

Barkley & Agholor
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50%
Cook, C Kirk, P Will
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50%
 
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Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:44 am

Team 2 in sig

I’m in the midst of a heavy rebuild and trying to sell Cook high. I am not (and wasn’t intending on) competing this year and my only few wins have come at the hands of Cook go figure. I received the following offer from the Barkley owner.

Give: Cook, Christian Kirk, Preston Williams
Get: Barkley, Agholor

I don’t value agholor as anything so basically it’s Barkley for those 3 pieces. In a start 2RB/3WR/2FLEX league is it worth giving up Cook and solid depth for Barkley? I may try and ask for something better than Agholor like a 2nd or even 3rd but I’m more concerned on if anyone would take the deal as is?

For reference my best offer for Cook has been Guice and 2/3/4/5 round picks. I offered him for Sutton and the likely 1.4 and was rejected
TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX - 1.01/2.01/3.02/3.10/4.08/4.10/5.08
QB: Wilson - Brady - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Samuels - Bo - Ito - Guice(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - DJ - TY - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - Perriman - JJAW - Miller - Hurd - Gage - Ward
TE: Engram - Hock - Olsen - Stern

TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Adam_172 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:41 am

Basically Barkley for Cook.

Barkley here. Would require something more significant added to Cook to consider this as a Barkley owner so take this and run if I were you.
TEAM 1
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1 QB, 2 - 4 RB's, 2 - 4 WR's, 1 - 3 TE's and 1 DEF (9 man weekly starter)

QB's- Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Nick Foles.
RB's- Marlon Mack, Devonta Freeman, Rashaad Penny, Lamar Miller, Dion Lewis, Dare Ogunbowale, Wayne Gallman.
WR's- Keenan Allen, D.J Moore, Marvin Jones, Emmanuel Sanders, Daesean Hamilton, Paul Richardson, Marquise Goodwin, David Moore, Travis Benjamin, Deon Cain, Rashard Higgins.
TE's- Greg Olsen, Will Dissly, Ian Thomas, Jace Sternberger, Hayden Hurst.
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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Ioverpayforrookies » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:45 am

Disagree with the above poster, Kirk has looked good and I also like what I've seen from Preston. Cook is in a position to be very productive for many years with the team around him and teams are honing in on Saquon. If you're rebuilding, I say keep the 3 talented pieces
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10 team, .5 ppr, 30 man roster - 2 QB, 3 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 1 W/R Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins,Winston, Foles, Finley
WR: Julio, Hilton, Edelman Woods, Landry, M. Williams, A. Robinson, Harmon, Meyers, Butler
RB: Gurley, D. Cook, Mack Lindsay, Mixon, Hines, Jon. Williams
TE: Hooper, Everett, Eifert, Irv, I. Thomas

Team 2:
10 team, .5 ppr, 45 man roster, 1QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE 1 W/R/T flex, 1 SF, 1 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 2 CB, 2 S, 1 DEF Flex
QB:Brady, Darnold Goff, Foles, Finley
WR: Godwin, Edelman, Kirk, Hilton, Landry, J. Brown A. Miller, MVS, Cobb, AB, Harmon
RB:Gurley, D. Freeman, A. Jones Sanders, Jon. Williams, L. Miller, Ajayi, K. Hunt
TE:Waller, Rudolph Graham, Fells
DT:Phillips
DE:Campbell, R. Quinnp
LB:Leonard, Deion Jones, Barrett, R. Evans/b]
CB:L. Ryan, Jenkins
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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:41 am

I would take the three solid pieces in a full rebuild. Any other type if build, I would take Barkley.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 1.01, 1.03, 2.12, 3.11, 4.08, 5.08 2021: 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Bennyblanco22 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:34 pm

I just traded for kirk so i don't see him as jag. I like cook alot too and pwill is a big money lotto ticket. Barkley had the highest % of runs stuffed for no gain last year as talented as he is, so I'd say that offense needs major help. The three pieces can only gain value but Barkley can realistically only lose value.
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QB- Watson, Trubisky

RB- CMC, M Mack, Carson, Penny, Justice Hill, JSamuels, Hines, Darwin Thompson

WR-Tyreek Hill, Cooper Kupp, AJ Brown, Christian Kirk, Terry McLaurin, Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel, Will Fuller, Diontae johnson, James Washington, Jalen Hurd ,Eq. St Brown

TE- Fant, Everett, Jonnu, Dissly, Gesicki, Ian Thomas

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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Factory of Sadness » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:07 am

I'd take Barkley and sell him a few weeks into next year.

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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Z$$$ » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:46 am

Cooks side. The way he’s played this year brought him a lot closer to Barkley’s value IMO and the gap is less than Kirk so it’s a win in my book to get Cooks and Kirk
10 Team PPR: 1QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-2TE, D/ST
QB: Ryan, Trubisky, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Michel, Singletary, Gallman, Harris
WR: Adams, Cooks, Kupp, M. Brown, Hardman, JJAW, Pettis, Bebee, Crowder
TE: Rudolph, Hockenson, Goedert
D: PHI, SF
2020 Picks: 1.02, 1.07, 3.06

12 Team PPR/IDP: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Lock
RB: CMC, Penny, Montgomery, Sanders, Singletary, McCoy
WR: Adams, JuJu, Ridley, DJ Moore, Kirk, Campbell, M Brown
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Andrews
K: Butker, Tucker
D: S. Thompson, L. David, D. James, D. White, Holcomb
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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:13 am

Adam_172 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:41 am
Basically Barkley for Cook.

Barkley here. Would require something more significant added to Cook to consider this as a Barkley owner so take this and run if I were you.
What do you mean basically Barkley for Cook , What about the 2 WR1's on their teams ? , Fitz is gone next year Kirk is going to be a very good WR and Parker might be gone next year , before Preston got hurt he was playing pretty good on a bad team.
(TEAM 1) 12 Team, QB +%50 Rushing, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Goff, C.Newton
RB-M.Gordon, D.Cook, A.Ekeler, J.Jackson
WR-M.Thomas, O.Beckham, D.Adams, A.Brown, T.Boyd, D.Parker
TE-G.Kittle, D.Waller, I.Thomas
Taxi-A.Mattison, F.Moreau

(TEAM 2) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-D.Prescott, B.Roethlisberger
RB-A.Kamara, J.Mixon, K.Hunt, G.Bernard
WR-T.Hill, M.Evans, K.Golladay, A.Brown, S.Watkins
TE-T.Higbee, I.Thomas, J.Smith
Taxi-D.Thompson, R.Anderson

(TEAM 3) 12 Team, .15 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-D.Watson, D.Carr
RB-J.Mixon, D.Cook, D.Williams, R.Jones, A.Mattison, P.Barber, G.Bernard
WR-J.Smith-Schuster, S.Diggs, K.Golladay, T.Boyd, T.Williams, D.Hamilton, S.Sims
TE-D.Waller, I.Thomas, F.Moreau

(TEAM 4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPC, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-D.Prescott, J.Allen, J.Flacco
RB-T.Gurley, M.Gordon, K.Drake, C.Hyde, M.Brown
WR-K.Allen, K.Golladay, K.Kirk, A.Lazard, S.Sims, J.Reynolds, R.Cobb
TE-E.Engram, T.Higbee, V.McDonald


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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby JJRules » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:28 am

Trying not to be biased as a Cook owner, but this year is what we expected from Cook and I see no reason he won't continue this level of production going forward. His value shouldn't be far behind Barkley at this point, and the difference isn't those two WRs either way.
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QB: Watson, Tannehill, Stafford, Dimes
RB: Cook, Mixon, Singletary
WR: Adams, Godwin, Kupp, McLaurin, AJB
TE: Engram, Fant, Hockenson
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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:50 am

if im not competing like you mentioned i take barkley very easily.

barkely is 1.5 years younger and has nowhere near the injury histoy of cook.

dont be short sighted cuz barkley rolled his ankle and played on a bad team riddled with injury this season.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Goddard » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:24 am

I think I'd rather have Barkley, but it's close.

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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Adam_172 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:14 am

Kirk and Williams aren't random pieces but my point is, if I want arguably the #1 dynasty asset in Barkley those 2 players aren't the sort of players that would make a huge difference to my position.
TEAM 1
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TEAM 2
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1 QB, 2 - 4 RB's, 2 - 4 WR's, 1 - 3 TE's and 1 DEF (9 man weekly starter)

QB's- Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Nick Foles.
RB's- Marlon Mack, Devonta Freeman, Rashaad Penny, Lamar Miller, Dion Lewis, Dare Ogunbowale, Wayne Gallman.
WR's- Keenan Allen, D.J Moore, Marvin Jones, Emmanuel Sanders, Daesean Hamilton, Paul Richardson, Marquise Goodwin, David Moore, Travis Benjamin, Deon Cain, Rashard Higgins.
TE's- Greg Olsen, Will Dissly, Ian Thomas, Jace Sternberger, Hayden Hurst.
DEF- Vikings, Bills.

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Re: Barkley vs Cook+

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:24 am

Barkley>Cook
but not by kirk and williams

Barkley's still #1 or 2 to most people (was 2 and still is 2 to me) but cook is getting into that tier now and has to be a top 6 RB in a mini grouping of him and Chubb or in the mid to back end of the top tier of RBs. If the Bark owner is coming to me i wouldn't add more than a late first or early 2nd . if I'm going to the barkley owner that's a different animal
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