L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

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L. Jackson or OBJ + Zeke

L. Jackson
2
8%
OBJ + Zeke
22
92%
 
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L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby Dominus » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:34 pm

Hey everyone!

I'm into preparing for next year as I've been eliminated from the playoffs. My team is in my signature.

I've been getting a ton of offers for Lamar, since we're moving to Superflex next year. Most of them are easy passes, since I have the top 3 picks in next year's draft.

However, this one is hard for me to evaluate. I've been verbally offered the following:

Give: L. Jackson
Get: O. Beckham Jr., Ezekiel Elliott

Is it crazy that I'm still leaning towards keeping Lamar? I don't know how to value QBs in Superflex having never played in one before, and we're a 9 keeper league, so, I'd be dropping one of my other keepers. However, having Zeke + Kamara + D. Adams + OBJ + Godwin would feel really solid.

What are your thoughts? Keep Lamar and enjoy the ride, or, sell now and hope for explosions from OBJ/Zeke next year?
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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:27 pm

I would keep Jackson with moving to SF. The offer is really solid, but I see no reason to move Jackson. His value could get even crazier in the off season too with the hype of an encore 2020 season (see Mahomes this past off season).

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby ravn88 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:50 pm

I would do it.

Then I would pick Tua (Or Borrow) and the best RB/WR and leave the last QB and send an offer to the K. Murray owner.

What About keepers Will you increase them ?
If not then I would Think twice. What good are picks if you cant keep em.
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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby RB6 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:01 pm

Keep Lamar.
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Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
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Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby Adam_172 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:23 am

Am I missing something? Even in SF (where I hold him) why would you not trade him for a top 3 RB and a top 10 WR?

The poster also has the FIRST 3 picks next year so he can go out and have his pick of the QB's from the draft. I'd take 2 and then use 1.03 on an RB.

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby jenkins.math » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:15 am

You're trading Lamar high and buying OBJ and Zeke low. That's the way it should be done. Take OBJ and Zeke now.

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby sloth8u » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:38 am

jenkins.math wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:15 am You're trading Lamar high and buying OBJ and Zeke low. That's the way it should be done. Take OBJ and Zeke now.
No brainer for me. The downgrade at qb is well worth the upgrades. If your worried about rookie qb, or qb in general....trade your picks for proven qbs. May be able to get qb plus if you target the right guys.

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby EAGLES » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:42 pm

I’d move Lamar for that package especially since you have the top 3 rookie picks next year. You could probably try buying Baker low with the 1.03.

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:25 am

I would probably take that unless you think Beckham and the CLE offense won't get better next year. However, I'd shop Jackson around first before accepting. You might get an even better deal from another team given Jackson's hype right now.
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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:04 am

take this now if you can

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby dark_knite03 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:34 pm

I'm going to say keep Jackson if it's SF. Draft Taylor or swift and jeudy.
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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:57 am

I was the first Lamar believer when everyone here said he can't pass and is just a running QB that won't last , BUT even I would sell Lamar for them 2 studs
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WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

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QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby Goddard » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:27 am

Give me OBJ and Zeke

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby Madcity_matt » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:47 am

hate to lose Lamar but I'd sell him for that

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Re: L. Jackson vs OBJ + Zeke

Postby Badger » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:36 pm

If it was full dynasty where you keep your entire roster, I'd easily take that deal. Because you only keep 9, that makes those 2 QB slots even more precious. I'd hold Lamar unless you're moving to fully dynasty.
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