Ethical Dilemma

[Jcedwards]

Need some input on this situation that has happened in my league. I’m not the commissioner, but just a devoted league member.

This trade was agreed to:
TEAM A trades Golladay, David Johnson, 2020 2nd
TEAM B trades Marvin Jones, Ballage, 3 3rds (2 2020, 1 2021)

While the trade is awful, that’s not the concerning part. The commissioner has started to take 1 draft pick away for every player that is in a starting lineup who is on bye/ out when they have another option on the bench to plug in. This is to keep it competitive. Team A already got his 5th taken away last week and was going to get his 2nd, 3rd , and 4th taken away this week (essentially nullifying the trade). Well the same 2 teams made another trade of Team B trading Gus Edwards to Team A for absolutely nothing.

It seems very fishy that the 2nd trade was agreed to and mainly so the 1st trade can happen. It just seems very unethical in my opinion. Is it worth making a stink about or is it that big a deal?

Team A is a new team this year and obviously doesn’t know much about dynasty leagues and is going to miss the playoffs. Team B is in the playoffs and is probably going to be a 3-5 seed.

[steelman]

I'm having trouble figuring out what Gus Edwards has to do with the other trade, and how can the other trade even go through if Team A is going to lose those picks he plans on trading? Either he has the picks to trade or he doesn't

[Jcedwards]

I'm having trouble figuring out what Gus Edwards has to do with the other trade, and how can the other trade even go through if Team A is going to lose those picks he plans on trading? Either he has the picks to trade or he doesn't

Team A had 3 spots in his starting lineup that had people with a bye or just an open spot (DJ, Rudolph, kicker) when he had an alternative on his bench to put in. He was going to lose his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th picks if he didn’t put someone in his lineup. He traded for Gus Edwards and slid him into his RB slot, but didn’t trade anyone/ anything. This way he only loses his 3rd and 4th (since he has 2 spots now open) but keeps his 2nd. Therefore, the other trade can now work. The commissioner takes away the lowest picks first so that’s why his 4th and 3rd are getting taken, but not his 2nd. The entire situation seems real shady to me, not to mention it is a terrible trade (the 1st one)

[Gator Sens]

The situation seems very strange to me. The most recent trade is awful. Why did the owner trade for Edwards to edit his lineup and then leave two other players out? Sounds like he is not invested in the league which really drags down a dynasty league. I wonder if replacing the owner is needed?

[vixen]

this seems pretty wonky..
do you have shallow rosters? is that the reason for having players with byes in the lineup?
I appreciate the loss of draft spots per violation, but owners should only be allowed to violate the rule a couple times.. then they should be removed..

[Jcedwards]

The situation seems very strange to me. The most recent trade is awful. Why did the owner trade for Edwards to edit his lineup and then leave two other players out? Sounds like he is not invested in the league which really drags down a dynasty league. I wonder if replacing the owner is needed?

He traded for Edwards in order to keep his 2nd round pick. Keeping his 2nd round pick allows him do the first trade now. I assume he kept the others the same because they had already played (kicker was Folk on his bench) or he doesn’t have the room to drop someone to pick up another TE. He’s new this year and has been doing a decent job, but these last couple of weeks he has just made some terrible decisions/ trades (which makes me think he doesn’t care anymore)

[Jcedwards]

this seems pretty wonky..
do you have shallow rosters? is that the reason for having players with byes in the lineup?
I appreciate the loss of draft spots per violation, but owners should only be allowed to violate the rule a couple times.. then they should be removed..

We have 23 man rosters. 10 starting and 13 bench players. So he had several options to plug in, but decided not too. Yea this is already his 2nd time violating the rules. Last week was 1 player and this week was going to be 3, until this whole situation.

[lukkynumber13]

Need some input on this situation that has happened in my league. I’m not the commissioner, but just a devoted league member.

This trade was agreed to:
TEAM A trades Golladay, David Johnson, 2020 2nd
TEAM B trades Marvin Jones, Ballage, 3 3rds (2 2020, 1 2021)

While the trade is awful, that’s not the concerning part. The commissioner has started to take 1 draft pick away for every player that is in a starting lineup who is on bye/ out when they have another option on the bench to plug in. This is to keep it competitive. Team A already got his 5th taken away last week and was going to get his 2nd, 3rd , and 4th taken away this week (essentially nullifying the trade). Well the same 2 teams made another trade of Team B trading Gus Edwards to Team A for absolutely nothing.

It seems very fishy that the 2nd trade was agreed to and mainly so the 1st trade can happen. It just seems very unethical in my opinion. Is it worth making a stink about or is it that big a deal?

Team A is a new team this year and obviously doesn’t know much about dynasty leagues and is going to miss the playoffs. Team B is in the playoffs and is probably going to be a 3-5 seed.

Assuming you mean he literally got traded for nothing, not a single asset coming back, then you need to leave that league ASAP. Even if you're not being literal (Edwards was traded for Nick Boyle or something), still seems fishy enough. I would bounce and find a grown up league.

[FantasyFoosball]

This league sounds horrendous. I'd get out while you can.

[Jcedwards]

Need some input on this situation that has happened in my league. I’m not the commissioner, but just a devoted league member.

This trade was agreed to:
TEAM A trades Golladay, David Johnson, 2020 2nd
TEAM B trades Marvin Jones, Ballage, 3 3rds (2 2020, 1 2021)

While the trade is awful, that’s not the concerning part. The commissioner has started to take 1 draft pick away for every player that is in a starting lineup who is on bye/ out when they have another option on the bench to plug in. This is to keep it competitive. Team A already got his 5th taken away last week and was going to get his 2nd, 3rd , and 4th taken away this week (essentially nullifying the trade). Well the same 2 teams made another trade of Team B trading Gus Edwards to Team A for absolutely nothing.

It seems very fishy that the 2nd trade was agreed to and mainly so the 1st trade can happen. It just seems very unethical in my opinion. Is it worth making a stink about or is it that big a deal?

Team A is a new team this year and obviously doesn’t know much about dynasty leagues and is going to miss the playoffs. Team B is in the playoffs and is probably going to be a 3-5 seed.

Assuming you mean he literally got traded for nothing, not a single asset coming back, then you need to leave that league ASAP. Even if you're not being literal (Edwards was traded for Nick Boyle or something), still seems fishy enough. I would bounce and find a grown up league.

Yea he literally got traded for nothing. Wasn’t a player or pick at all sent back to him. A couple other things than happened in this league that have irked me, so I think this is the final straw for me.

[Dibbles]

Im a no veto guy but when a player is traded for ZERO in return, that is unacceptable. I would bail on the league or vote to boot both offenders.

[infamousbacardi]

The Gus Edwards issue doesn't seem that crazy to me. He needed to add him to keep the draft pick so that their main trade would go through.

I'd give up Gus Edwards on top of that package for that return, it's a complete fleecing...if I was the owner of Team B I'd have a VERY vested interest in that trade going through and not getting shot down because Team A owner didn't have the pick anymore to make the trade work.

I'm more concerned with how bad the trade is. You could actually make an argument that package in a dynasty league is just a little shy in total for solely Golladay, let alone DJ and a 2 on top of it...that's awful.

[BigBawseRoss]

the first trade is totally bogus no matter how much dynasty experience you have. working around the system to make a bogus trade work is even more bogus. get out. not worth causing a stink. if the commish cared it wouldnt happen

[Dynastydumpsterfire]

get out.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

I THINK I understand what they were trying to do, abnd the trading owners could try and defend it THIS TIME, but I would move on from the league. It's walking too fine a line imo.